PHOTO DUMP
- Episodes
- 57
- Released
- monthly
- Latest episode
- Nov 10, 2026
About the podcast
Photo Dump is a podcast by and for working photographers. Tune in weekly as photographers Ren Fuller and Jennifer Chong get into the nitty gritty of all things photography industry and business. Holler: www.photodump.club / [email protected] / instagram.com/photodump.club
Episodes 57
#56 - Photo Trends with Robin of Holl & Artists
We chat about some of the photography industry trends and shifts we've been noticing lately with Holl & Artists agent, Robin.We start with how the bidding process has evolved, and how production companies have …
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We chat about some of the photography industry trends and shifts we've been noticing lately with Holl & Artists agent, Robin.
We start with how the bidding process has evolved, and how production companies have increasingly become the central point of contact during that stage. Then moving into, AI, we get into contract language, misuse cases, SEO and discoverability, and how AI is changing every stage of photography, from bidding to pre-production to what happens on set.
This is a long one, packed with gems. Save for multiple listens!.
You can follow Holl & Artists here:
@hollandartists (https://www.instagram.com/hollandartists/)
www.hollandartists.com/
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#55 - Danny Owens of Toil Studio
Danny is the EP and owner of Toil Studio, a production company. He gives us a behind-the-scenes look at what it really means to sit in the middle of the client and creative worlds.We get into how his company …
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Danny is the EP and owner of Toil Studio, a production company. He gives us a behind-the-scenes look at what it really means to sit in the middle of the client and creative worlds.
We get into how his company approaches everything that goes into making a production work - managing expectations, building relationships on both sides of the table, different budgets, crew rates, and more.
This episode is a deep dive into the producer’s perspective.
You can follow Toil Studio here:
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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#54 - Contract Pushback Part 2
Cookbook awarded. Estimate and terms approved. Shoot dates locked in. What happens when you think you have a deal and then their contract arrives? This is part 2 of our contract pushback episode, recapping …
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Cookbook awarded. Estimate and terms approved. Shoot dates locked in. What happens when you think you have a deal and then their contract arrives? This is part 2 of our contract pushback episode, recapping months of back and forth, a tense legal call, and a decision to make.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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#53 - Andrew Paulson of Slow Sunday Creatives
We sat down with Andrew Paulson, who just launched his own agency, Slow Sunday Creatives, for a conversation about where the photography industry is headed—and what that means for agents and photographers.We …
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We sat down with Andrew Paulson, who just launched his own agency, Slow Sunday Creatives, for a conversation about where the photography industry is headed—and what that means for agents and photographers.
We get into Usage, licensing, marketing, AI, the evolving agent/photographer relationship… and a very real-world pricing dilemma.
You can follow Andrew here:
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#52 - Contract Pushback
A behind-the-scenes look at a real contract negotiation. We unpack a recent bid and discuss how to push back on advances, payment schedules, and other key terms. Little did we know...this was only the …
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A behind-the-scenes look at a real contract negotiation. We unpack a recent bid and discuss how to push back on advances, payment schedules, and other key terms. Little did we know...this was only the beginning. (Stay tuned for Part 2.)
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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#51 - Usage These Days
We recently came across a post by Ask Stern Rep on instagram that answered a question about whether unlimited licensing is the industry trend now. We chat about our thoughts, and what types of usage requests …
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We recently came across a post by Ask Stern Rep on instagram that answered a question about whether unlimited licensing is the industry trend now. We chat about our thoughts, and what types of usage requests we’ve been getting lately.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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#50 - Photography Today
We chat about our thoughts on photography today and ponder the question: "Would we start a photography career today?" We also catch up about some recent shoots and get into the nitty about a few fun ones!---Ren …
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We chat about our thoughts on photography today and ponder the question: "Would we start a photography career today?" We also catch up about some recent shoots and get into the nitty about a few fun ones!
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#49 - AI
We discuss an AI collaborated shoot that one of us recently worked on and our feelings on the project - We reflect on how it impacts the industry, our morals, our future, and more.---Ren + Jennifer get into the …
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We discuss an AI collaborated shoot that one of us recently worked on and our feelings on the project - We reflect on how it impacts the industry, our morals, our future, and more.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#48 - AMA
An episode on all your write in questions. From how to give constructive feedback to crew to working in house to getting more budget from clients and much more.---Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all …
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An episode on all your write in questions. From how to give constructive feedback to crew to working in house to getting more budget from clients and much more.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#47 - Catch Up
Ren & Jenn have an impromptu catch up on what they've been up to lately. Bidding, Shooting, Workers Comp - this is a true peek into how they catch up on a regular basis.---Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty …
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Ren & Jenn have an impromptu catch up on what they've been up to lately. Bidding, Shooting, Workers Comp - this is a true peek into how they catch up on a regular basis.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#46 - Jake Stangel on The Process
Jake Stangel talks about his entire shoot process - from initial client inquiry all the way through to wrapping up in post. Jake walks us through how he approaches each stage of a shoot, including communication …
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Jake Stangel talks about his entire shoot process - from initial client inquiry all the way through to wrapping up in post. Jake walks us through how he approaches each stage of a shoot, including communication with clients, pre-production planning, on-set execution and vibes managing, and how he stays cool under pressure. We also get into how he shaped his portfolio to land bigger jobs (hint: it wasn’t overnight) and why advocating for his crew is a non-negotiable on every shoot.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#45 - Photo Shoot Breakdown
Jennifer takes us through a full breakdown of an advertising shoot she did, from initial inquiry, bidding, pre-production, and the final shoot, and her takeaways.---Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of …
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Jennifer takes us through a full breakdown of an advertising shoot she did, from initial inquiry, bidding, pre-production, and the final shoot, and her takeaways.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#44 - Cheyenne Ellis on An Evolving Career
Cheyenne is a Los Angeles based lifestyle and advertising photographer with a dynamic and wide-ranging career. She began as a stuntwoman, assisted legends like Irving Penn, and went on to build a thriving …
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Cheyenne is a Los Angeles based lifestyle and advertising photographer with a dynamic and wide-ranging career. She began as a stuntwoman, assisted legends like Irving Penn, and went on to build a thriving advertising career as well as becoming a published author.
We discuss lessons from assisting top photographers, growing up in a stunt family, and balancing dual careers. Cheyenne also shares how she and her creative partners brought their cookbook Coastal to life—from pitch to publication.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#43 - Call In: Client Education
In this episode, we take a call from a listener who's grappling with how to educate clients on budget and usage—two topics that can be tricky but are crucial for a smooth creative process. Their question sparks …
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In this episode, we take a call from a listener who's grappling with how to educate clients on budget and usage—two topics that can be tricky but are crucial for a smooth creative process. Their question sparks a broader conversation as we dive into our own experiences navigating these conversations with clients, from explaining licensing to setting realistic expectations around deliverables.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#42 - Marian Cooper Cairns on Food Styling
Ever wonder what a food stylist does on set or how to work with one? We chat with Marian Cooper Cairns, LA based food stylist about her side of the industry, what her role entails, and how she works with …
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Ever wonder what a food stylist does on set or how to work with one? We chat with Marian Cooper Cairns, LA based food stylist about her side of the industry, what her role entails, and how she works with photographers and producers as an integral part of the team.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#41 - Dawn Heumann on Testing / Spec Work
Our chat with Dawn Heuman continues the conversation of investing in yourself. Dawn breaks down how the test shoots she’s put on have impacted her career. We chat about how she's created successful shoots of …
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Our chat with Dawn Heuman continues the conversation of investing in yourself. Dawn breaks down how the test shoots she’s put on have impacted her career. We chat about how she's created successful shoots of different size and what exactly goes into them, including hard numbers.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#40 - Invest in yo-self
What does investing in a photo business look like and how does it pay off? We talk about basic initial investments like website or gear, all the way up to funding your own personal projects.---Ren + Jennifer …
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What does investing in a photo business look like and how does it pay off? We talk about basic initial investments like website or gear, all the way up to funding your own personal projects.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#39 - Hello Again! (New Season!)
New Year New Season! Ren and Jennifer are back, kicking off the season with a catch up on how 2024 went, goals for the new year, feelings about the state of the industry, and just general shop talk.---Ren + …
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New Year New Season! Ren and Jennifer are back, kicking off the season with a catch up on how 2024 went, goals for the new year, feelings about the state of the industry, and just general shop talk.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#38 - Gabriela Herman on personal work and motherhood
Gabriela Herman discusses the importance of creating personal work, how it has opened numerous opportunities for her, and how she balances being a mom in this industry. --- Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty …
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Gabriela Herman discusses the importance of creating personal work, how it has opened numerous opportunities for her, and how she balances being a mom in this industry.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#37 - Dan Saelinger on the introduction of AI
The world of AI is rapidly changing and evolving in our industry. We chat with Dan Saelinger a photographer who has started to introduce AI into his own workflow and even created a couple of campaigns created …
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The world of AI is rapidly changing and evolving in our industry. We chat with Dan Saelinger a photographer who has started to introduce AI into his own workflow and even created a couple of campaigns created 100% in AI.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#36 - Carling French on Producing
If you've never worked with a producer and want to learn more about their process, we've got you covered in this week's episode. We chat with Carling French from French Productions as she pulls back the curtain …
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If you've never worked with a producer and want to learn more about their process, we've got you covered in this week's episode. We chat with Carling French from French Productions as she pulls back the curtain on what it's like to work with a producer.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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#35 - Starting Motion
Ever wondered how to start working in Motion? Jennifer takes us through her first motion spec and how she brought it to life. --- Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography …
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Ever wondered how to start working in Motion? Jennifer takes us through her first motion spec and how she brought it to life.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#34 - Yve Assad on balancing career and motherhood
Yve opens up about how she balances a successful commercial career with being a new mom. --- Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly …
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Yve opens up about how she balances a successful commercial career with being a new mom.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#33 - Shoot Breakdown
Ren takes us through a full breakdown of an advertising shoot, from initial inquiry, bidding, pre-production, and the final shoot --- Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial …
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Ren takes us through a full breakdown of an advertising shoot, from initial inquiry, bidding, pre-production, and the final shoot
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#32 - Nicole Morrison on Leveling Up
Nicole chats about the different stages of her career and how she leveled up from shooting weddings to being a team of one for repeat clients to large scale commercial jobs that are crewed up with a team …
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Nicole chats about the different stages of her career and how she leveled up from shooting weddings to being a team of one for repeat clients to large scale commercial jobs that are crewed up with a team.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#31 - Work for Hire
Ren and Jennifer debate a specific rate for a Work for Hire agreement and what goes into the decision of taking an agreement that releases your copyright on the work created. --- Ren + Jennifer get into the …
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Ren and Jennifer debate a specific rate for a Work for Hire agreement and what goes into the decision of taking an agreement that releases your copyright on the work created.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#30 - Rob Haggart on Building a Level Playing Field
Rob sheds light on the job of a photo editor and what lead him to start his largely trafficked site- aphotoeditor.com. Rob has always spear headed transparency which is what his website did for the industry …
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Rob sheds light on the job of a photo editor and what lead him to start his largely trafficked site- aphotoeditor.com. Rob has always spear headed transparency which is what his website did for the industry, and now currently with his Salary posts. We also talk about promos and marketing - what makes a good promo?
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#29 - Rejection
In our industry, rejection is the norm. We have a higher chance of being rejected than being awarded a job. In this episode, we chat about our experiences with rejection and how we deal with it. --- Ren + …
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In our industry, rejection is the norm. We have a higher chance of being rejected than being awarded a job. In this episode, we chat about our experiences with rejection and how we deal with it.
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
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Support the podcast and BUY US A COFFEE
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Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#28 - AMA
On our final episode of Season 2, we have answers to all of your write in questions: from intro emails to assist, to benefits of living in a major city, to pro’s and cons of LLC’s/S-Corps, to finance …
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On our final episode of Season 2, we have answers to all of your write in questions: from intro emails to assist, to benefits of living in a major city, to pro’s and cons of LLC’s/S-Corps, to finance approaches, and many more!
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com
Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
#27 - Aundre Larrow on Social + Commercial Photography
Aundre Larrow is a New York based photographer and Adobe Creative Resident. We chat about how he uses different mediums to create art, from iphone to DSLR to motion and how he views content creation. He also …
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Aundre Larrow is a New York based photographer and Adobe Creative Resident. We chat about how he uses different mediums to create art, from iphone to DSLR to motion and how he views content creation. He also takes us back to his young hustle days and how he worked his way up to larger clients.
Links: www.aundrelarrow.com | @aundre
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Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things commercial photography industry and business on this bi-weekly podcast.
Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to: [email protected] or @photodump.club
Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com
Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com
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