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6: Stall! Stall!

September 11, 2026 · 1 h 17 min

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Hoffers and Brady discuss watches, another risky fly-over, the Amazon plane coming off the Miami runway, a terrible ground crew incident in Toronto, Lockerbie tourism, and the infamous crash of Air France Flight 447.

Support our new project on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/Runway23

Bremont’s ejection seat watch: https://martin-baker.com/watches/mb-i/

The super low South Africa Stadium fly-over: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3rew8jqny5o

The 1995 World Cup final Jumbo fly-over: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_7QjbNxdqc

The Flappy Bird-style game over the stadium: https://www.flappylink.com/

More details about the Amazon plane incident have emerged since we recorded: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_Air_Flight_7598

Korean 737 hits barrier (warning, tough to see): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNuANEriHlU

Trolley Problems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem

The Gimli Glider we previously discussed in episode 2: https://www.runway23.fm/episodes/002

Ground crew incident in Montreal: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/airport-montreal-accident-9.7319215

See Hoffers own picture of the headphone socket on his plane’s fuselage - plus the pitot tubes from the same walk-around: https://www.patreon.com/Runway23/posts/169239259

Bali Birdstrike picture also via Hoffers - https://www.patreon.com/Runway23/posts/169239259

The Lockerbie disaster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103

The recommended Lockerbie series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bombing_of_Pan_Am_103

Pictures from Hoffers’ visit to Lockerbie: https://www.patreon.com/Runway23/posts/169239259

Aberfan landslide disaster in Wales: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberfan_disaster

The 9/11 Memorial in New York City: https://www.911memorial.org/

The Air France Flight 447 disaster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447

The Inter Tropical Convergence Zone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertropical_Convergence_Zone

Hoffers’ own video of St Elmo’s Fire on the windshield: https://www.patreon.com/Runway23/posts/169240103

Pitot Tubes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitot_tube

Air France crash transcript: https://bea.aero/uploads/tx_elyextendttnews/annexe.01.en.pdf

Air France tail in the sea: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8089917.stm

Lockerbie Cemetery picture: https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/NINTCHDBPICT000454081547-e1544012205198.jpg

The Flight 447 second interim report (with images of tail in storage): https://bea.aero/fileadmin/documents/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e2.en/pdf/f-cp090601e2.en_03.pdf

The Flight 447 third report (after discovery of wreckage on sea floor): https://bea.aero/fileadmin/documents/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e3.en/pdf/f-cp090601e3.en.pdf

Hoffers and Brady discuss watches, another risky fly-over, the Amazon plane coming off the Miami runway, a terrible ground crew incident in Toronto, Lockerbie tourism, and the infamous crash of Air France Flight 447.

Support our new project on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/Runway23

Bremont’s ejection seat watch: https://martin-baker.com/watches/mb-i/

The super low South Africa Stadium fly-over: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3rew8jqny5o

The 1995 World Cup final Jumbo fly-over: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_7QjbNxdqc

The Flappy Bird-style game over the stadium: https://www.flappylink.com/

More details about the Amazon plane incident have emerged since we recorded: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_Air_Flight_7598

Korean 737 hits barrier (warning, tough to see): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNuANEriHlU

Trolley Problems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem

The Gimli Glider we previously discussed in episode 2: https://www.runway23.fm/episodes/002

Ground crew incident in Montreal: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/airport-montreal-accident-9.7319215

See Hoffers own picture of the headphone socket on his plane’s fuselage - plus the pitot tubes from the same walk-around: https://www.patreon.com/Runway23/posts/169239259

Bali Birdstrike picture also via Hoffers - https://www.patreon.com/Runway23/posts/169239259

The Lockerbie disaster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103

The recommended Lockerbie series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bombing_of_Pan_Am_103

Pictures from Hoffers’ visit to Lockerbie: https://www.patreon.com/Runway23/posts/169239259

Aberfan landslide disaster in Wales: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberfan_disaster

The 9/11 Memorial in New York City: https://www.911memorial.org/

The Air France Flight 447 disaster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447

The Inter Tropical Convergence Zone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertropical_Convergence_Zone

Hoffers’ own video of St Elmo’s Fire on the windshield: https://www.patreon.com/Runway23/posts/169240103

Pitot Tubes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitot_tube

Air France crash transcript: https://bea.aero/uploads/tx_elyextendttnews/annexe.01.en.pdf

Air France tail in the sea: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8089917.stm

Lockerbie Cemetery picture: https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/NINTCHDBPICT000454081547-e1544012205198.jpg

The Flight 447 second interim report (with images of tail in storage): https://bea.aero/fileadmin/documents/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e2.en/pdf/f-cp090601e2.en_03.pdf

The Flight 447 third report (after discovery of recorders on sea floor): https://bea.aero/fileadmin/documents/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e3.en/pdf/f-cp090601e3.en.pdf

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