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What if love is a practice?

February 9, 2026 · 31 min

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In this solo episode of Saturn Returns, Caggie reflects on one of the most shape-shifting forces in our lives: love. Not the fantasy, but the lived, practised - and sometimes uncomfortable - truth of it.

She weaves together her own relationship experiences with insights from some of the most influential voices in modern relationship thinking.

Drawing on the work of Jillian Turecki, Caggie explores the idea of personal sovereignty in love - how our romantic lives often mirror our relationship with ourselves, and why consistency and character matter more than chemistry alone.

She also reflects on the grounded wisdom of Matthew Hussey, whose work champions self-respect and emotional availability, alongside the deeply human teachings of Esther Perel, including the paradox at the heart of intimacy: our desire for closeness and our need for space.

This conversation is an invitation to examine your own patterns. Do you confuse intensity with intimacy? Fantasy with safety? Are you choosing love from fear - or from truth?

You may also enjoy revisiting our earlier mini-series Letters to Venus for further reflections on matters of the heart, including Caggie’s interview with Jillian Turecki here.

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