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Adam Ferrier: Why Advertising Needs to Stop Making Ads

September 22, 2026 · 40 min

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Consumer psychologist and Thinkerbell founder Adam Ferrier thinks advertising has a bigger problem than AI: the industry is still too focused on making ads.

In this episode of Second Wind, Adam joins Gully Flowers and Kerrie Finch to unpack what advertising and marketing look like when you start with human behavior rather than the 30-second script.

Adam explains why the traditional creative model is breaking down, why advertising creatives need a better understanding of how people actually make decisions, and why some of the biggest creative opportunities are hiding in places the industry routinely ignores.

We also get into artificial intelligence and creativity: Adam’s idea of AI as “System 3,” the difference between cognitive offloading and cognitive surrender, and why he believes AI should enhance human creativity rather than simply make agencies more efficient.

Adam Ferrier is a consumer psychologist, author and founder of Thinkerbell. Before Thinkerbell, he co-founded Naked Communications in Australia and worked at Saatchi & Saatchi. His career spans behavioral science, brand strategy, creativity and advertising effectiveness.

In this episode:

* Why advertising needs to think beyond ads
* AI, creativity and the rise of “System 3”
* System 1, System 2 and how AI changes human thinking
* Cognitive offloading vs. cognitive surrender
* Brand building, future demand and category entry points
* Why the 30-second script still dominates advertising
* What’s wrong with the traditional copywriter/art director model
* Why creative people need to understand behavioral science
* How AI is changing advertising production
* Why email, CRM and customer experience are overlooked creative opportunities
* Creativity, craft and the future of advertising agencies

About Adam Ferrier
Adam Ferrier is the founder and Chief Thinker at Thinkerbell and one of Australia’s best-known consumer psychologists. He is the author of The Advertising Effect and Stop Listening to the Customer, and has worked across behavioral psychology, brand strategy and creativity.

Second Wind is a podcast about what happens next in advertising, creativity, marketing and the people reshaping the industry.

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