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The Herrington Denial

October 8, 2026 · 1 h 23 min

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John Herrington is in denial. The former Reagan administration official and Secretary of Energy has finally spoken publicly about Brent Friedman's extraordinary account of a 1981 conversation in which Herrington allegedly revealed that aliens were real, the government knew it, and he'd seen them himself. In an explosive interview with Jesse Michels on American Alchemy, Herrington denies the conversation ever happened and questions Brent's credibility. Now Brent fires back, armed with family photographs, a story he's told consistently for decades, and some pointed questions about Herrington's changing account. Who's telling the truth? And why does it matter more than ever?

In this special breaking episode of Sound, Light & Frequency, Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman also examine David Grusch's startling new revelations on Joe Rogan, Richard Dolan's perspective on the Herrington controversy and the mysterious Formula, and an intriguing discovery involving Steven Spielberg's family and Wright Field. What began as a conversation on a back porch 45 years ago has become part of a much bigger story about UFOs, Hollywood, and government secrecy. Brent and Bryce didn't plan to make this episode. Breaking events gave them no choice.

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