Supernatural Then and Now
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- Nov 9, 2026
About the podcast
In 2005, Sam and Dean Winchester set off on a road trip that would save the world and change television. For fifteen seasons and three hundred and twenty-seven episodes, the CW’s Supernatural (created by Eric Kripke) took audiences on a wild ride of family, fate, and faith with a rocking soundtrack and a seriously cool car. But that was then, and now … it’s time for another ride. Join hosts Rob Benedict (Chuck Shurley/God) and Richard Speight Jr (Gabriel and director of many episodes) for Supernatural: Then and Now, a winding road trip through every episode of this iconic series, one by one, every week, with guests each episode from the cast and crew that made the wild ride possible. Buckle up for guests including Jared Padalecki (Sam), Jensen Ackles (Dean), and Robert Singer (Executive producer), as well as many many more. Subscribe for early access, live Q&As, video interviews and the community at https://patreon.com/spnthenandnow Follow the podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spnthenandnow/ linktr.ee/spnthenandnow
Episodes 233
Do You Believe in Miracles with Mark Sheppard (S9EP23)
We did it! We made it to the finale of season 9 and we are so lucky to have Mark Sheppard as our guest for the episode. He shares stories about shooting the moment of Dean's transformation, thoughts on …
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We did it! We made it to the finale of season 9 and we are so lucky to have Mark Sheppard as our guest for the episode. He shares stories about shooting the moment of Dean's transformation, thoughts on Crowley's evolution through season 9, and how the writers weaved elements of his life into Crowley. Rob and Rich learn a little about messiahs.
Did you hear that Jared Padalecki will be joining us for the live podcast in Austin, TX on November 19th? There is still time to get tickets at www.spnthenandnow.com
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Stairway to Heaven with Guy Norman Bee (S9EP22)
It is great to have seasoned director Guy Norman Bee return to the podcast. He shares behind the scenes stories of the making of the season 9 penultimate episode. Hear stories of the ice cream shop, Metatron …
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It is great to have seasoned director Guy Norman Bee return to the podcast. He shares behind the scenes stories of the making of the season 9 penultimate episode. Hear stories of the ice cream shop, Metatron trying on Cass's trench coat, and the 2 times Tahmoh got mad at Rich.
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King of the Damned with P.J. Pesce (S9EP21)
Director PJ Pesce joins the podcast for the first time. PJ directed 5 episodes of Supernatural. He tells stories of mixing cocktails for Jared and Jensen. PJ and Rich nerd-out over camera lenses. Rob and Rich …
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Director PJ Pesce joins the podcast for the first time. PJ directed 5 episodes of Supernatural. He tells stories of mixing cocktails for Jared and Jensen. PJ and Rich nerd-out over camera lenses. Rob and Rich learn a little more about biblical mythology.
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Bloodlines with Andrew Dabb (S9EP20)
Andrew Dabb returns to the podcast to talk about the first attempt at a Supernatural spin-off. He shares the backstory of how it came together and the lessons he learned through the process. Its an honest …
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Andrew Dabb returns to the podcast to talk about the first attempt at a Supernatural spin-off. He shares the backstory of how it came together and the lessons he learned through the process. Its an honest conversation about television.
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Alex Annie Alexis Ann with Katherine Ramdeen (S9EP19)
Kathrine Ramdeen joins the podcast to chat about her role as Alex. Or is it Annie? Rob wishes this was the backdoor pilot, but as we all know, it kinda is. The fellas learn a little more about Stockholm …
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Kathrine Ramdeen joins the podcast to chat about her role as Alex. Or is it Annie? Rob wishes this was the backdoor pilot, but as we all know, it kinda is. The fellas learn a little more about Stockholm syndrome.
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Meta Fiction with "Sparkle" - Part 2 (S9EP18)
You've heard his name before on the podcast, Sparkle. His real name is Stephen P. Arkle. He was the colorist on Supernatural for almost its entire run. Hear the story of how he stated out working on beauty …
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You've heard his name before on the podcast, Sparkle. His real name is Stephen P. Arkle. He was the colorist on Supernatural for almost its entire run. Hear the story of how he stated out working on beauty pagents in Australia to working on a 15 year series and never working on the episodes with the sound on. Plus, Rob and Rich learn a little something about metafiction in classic mythology.
Oh, and did you know the podcast will be live in Austin, Texas on November 19th?
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Meta Fiction with Richard Speight, Jr. - Part 1 (S9EP18)
We did two interviews for the episode and it ended up being too long, so we broke it up into two parts. Rich shares stories about his return to the series and how this episode led to him directing 11 episodes …
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We did two interviews for the episode and it ended up being too long, so we broke it up into two parts. Rich shares stories about his return to the series and how this episode led to him directing 11 episodes. Plus, we have a moment with Misha. You'll have to listen to find out who the second interview is with!
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Mother's Little Helper with Misha Collins (S9EP17)
Misha Collins returns to the podcast! This time not to talk about Castiel, but to talk about directing a great episode of television. With all the stories about the pranks and hijinks on set, we thought this …
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Misha Collins returns to the podcast! This time not to talk about Castiel, but to talk about directing a great episode of television. With all the stories about the pranks and hijinks on set, we thought this would be a stinger, but it's great! Misha shares the stories of the shenanigans, and the challenges of directing. Rob and Rich learn about harvesting souls.
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Spotlight on Gil McKinney
Gil McKinney played Henry Winchester in Supernatural and The Winchesters. He joins the podcast to discuss playing the character, a different role he originally auditioned for, and the impact the opportunity has …
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Gil McKinney played Henry Winchester in Supernatural and The Winchesters. He joins the podcast to discuss playing the character, a different role he originally auditioned for, and the impact the opportunity has had on his career. He shares some pretty funny behind-the-scenes stories of pranks on set. Rob and Rich talk about Supernatural episodes that never happened.
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Blade Runners with Jimmy Pickel (S9EP16)
Editor Jimmy Pickel (not to be confused with Rich's friend for high-school) returns to the podcast. Hear about balancing humor and drama, Phil bringing down the hammer, and thoughts on Snookie's appearance. And …
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Editor Jimmy Pickel (not to be confused with Rich's friend for high-school) returns to the podcast. Hear about balancing humor and drama, Phil bringing down the hammer, and thoughts on Snookie's appearance. And whatever you do DON'T CROSS THE LINE!!! Rob and Rich learn about supernatural zoos.
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#thinman with Jenny Klein (S9EP15)
Writer Jenny Klein joins the podcast for this scary episode of Supernatural. Hear her story about starting as a writer production assistant, the origins of this idea, and her trips to set. She really gets sad …
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Writer Jenny Klein joins the podcast for this scary episode of Supernatural. Hear her story about starting as a writer production assistant, the origins of this idea, and her trips to set. She really gets sad about breaking up the Ghostfacers! Rob and Rich learn about Slender Man and Creepy Pasta.
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Replay: Spotlight on Eric Kripke
Rich has been pretty wrapped up with shooting a movie over the past 2 weeks, so we weren't able to record a new episode for today. Please enjoy this flashback to when we put on Spotlight on Eric Kripke. We'll …
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Rich has been pretty wrapped up with shooting a movie over the past 2 weeks, so we weren't able to record a new episode for today. Please enjoy this flashback to when we put on Spotlight on Eric Kripke. We'll be back next Saturday with what is sure to be a fantastic episode featuring Jenny Klein talking about #thinman.
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Captives with Jerry Wanek (S9EP14)
Jerry Wanek returns to the podcast to chat about this episode he directed. The group discusses the Men of Letters bunker, the return of Osric Chau and Lauren Tom, and Jerry's excellent shot choices. Rob and …
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Jerry Wanek returns to the podcast to chat about this episode he directed. The group discusses the Men of Letters bunker, the return of Osric Chau and Lauren Tom, and Jerry's excellent shot choices. Rob and Rich learn a little something about the name Bartholomew.
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The Purge with Phil Sgriccia (S9EP13)
Phil Sgriccia returns to the podcast to discuss the only episode he directed in Season 9. He shares stories of putting Sam and Dean in a new setting, introducing a new monster (it's been awhile), and weirdness …
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Phil Sgriccia returns to the podcast to discuss the only episode he directed in Season 9. He shares stories of putting Sam and Dean in a new setting, introducing a new monster (it's been awhile), and weirdness of cupping. Rob and Rich learn about pishtacos. Briana Buckmaster has entered the world!
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Sharp Teeth with DJ Qualls (S9EP12)
DJ Qualls (Garth) returns to the podcast to talk about his role as Garth. He shares behind the scenes stories about scheduling issues with Man In The High Castle, challenges of being a werewolf, and his disgust …
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DJ Qualls (Garth) returns to the podcast to talk about his role as Garth. He shares behind the scenes stories about scheduling issues with Man In The High Castle, challenges of being a werewolf, and his disgust of mayonnaise. Rob and Rich learn a little something about Norse mythology.
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First Born with Tim Omundson (S9EP11)
Timothy Omundson (Cain) joins the podcast for his debut episode. Hear about how he channeled Bruce Lee, his college days with Rich, and why conventions & fans are so important to him. Why do people ask Rob to …
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Timothy Omundson (Cain) joins the podcast for his debut episode. Hear about how he channeled Bruce Lee, his college days with Rich, and why conventions & fans are so important to him. Why do people ask Rob to sign the first-blade? Plus, FELICIA DAY joins the podcast for a guest review. Rob and Rich learn a little something about Cain from the bible.
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Road Trip with Bob Singer (S9EP10)
We always love a heavy mythology episode, and who better to bring it all together than executive producer Bob Singer. He directs this episode where all comes to a head with Sam facing Gadreel, Crowley …
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We always love a heavy mythology episode, and who better to bring it all together than executive producer Bob Singer. He directs this episode where all comes to a head with Sam facing Gadreel, Crowley collaborates, and the boys are in a bad place. Rob and Rich learn a little something about the biblical inspiration for Gadreel. Anyone from Poughkeepsi listening?
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Holy Terror with Eugenie Ross-Leming & Brad Buckner (S9EP9)
Writers Eugenie Ross-Leming & Brad Buckner return to the podcast to share great behind-the-scenes stories of this heavy mythology episode. There is so much going on in this script that we had to go back to the …
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Writers Eugenie Ross-Leming & Brad Buckner return to the podcast to share great behind-the-scenes stories of this heavy mythology episode. There is so much going on in this script that we had to go back to the source. Please Rob and Rich learn about X.
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Rock and a Hard Place with Kim Rhodes (S9EP8)
We are so excited to welcome Kim Rhodes (Sheriff Jody Mills) back to the podcast. She shares why this might not be her favorite episode, the joy of doing your own stunts, and why the relationship between Sam …
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We are so excited to welcome Kim Rhodes (Sheriff Jody Mills) back to the podcast. She shares why this might not be her favorite episode, the joy of doing your own stunts, and why the relationship between Sam and Jody just works. Rob and Rich learn about the Roman goddess Vesta.
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Bad Boys with Adam Glass (S9EP7)
Writer Adam Glass returns to the podcast to discuss this awesome Dean-backstory episode. Adam shares where the idea came from, why it was important to the franchise, and why this episode is so personal to him …
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Writer Adam Glass returns to the podcast to discuss this awesome Dean-backstory episode. Adam shares where the idea came from, why it was important to the franchise, and why this episode is so personal to him. Plus, Rob and Rich learn a little more about ghosts.
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Heaven Can't Wait with Robert Berens (S9EP6)
Writer Robert Berens joins the podcast. Bob is a major architect of the show in seasons 9-15. He tells us how he got involved in the show, the challenges of coming up with a monster-of-the-week, and his role as …
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Writer Robert Berens joins the podcast. Bob is a major architect of the show in seasons 9-15. He tells us how he got involved in the show, the challenges of coming up with a monster-of-the-week, and his role as a "sleeper-agent" for some fans. Rob and Rich learn a little something about categories of angels.
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Dog Dean Afternoon with Tim Andrew (S9EP5)
Director Tim Andrew makes his first appearance on the podcast. Tim directed 6 episodes of Supernatural. Hear about the joy of working with dogs, the antics on the set, and never heard before behind-the-scenes …
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Director Tim Andrew makes his first appearance on the podcast. Tim directed 6 episodes of Supernatural. Hear about the joy of working with dogs, the antics on the set, and never heard before behind-the-scenes stories. Rob and Rich learn a little something about talking dog movies.
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Slumber Party with Todd Aronauer (S9EP4)
Producer Todd Aronauer returns to the show to talk season 9 and The Wizard of Oz. Learn what a bottle episode is, hear about shooting at the Men of Letters Bunker, and get info on the process of designing the …
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Producer Todd Aronauer returns to the show to talk season 9 and The Wizard of Oz. Learn what a bottle episode is, hear about shooting at the Men of Letters Bunker, and get info on the process of designing the look of the show. Rob and Rich learn about the books about Oz.
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I'm No Angel with Misha Collins (S9EP3)
Misha Collins returns to the podcast! He discusses Castiel being more human, feeling secure as a series regular on the show, and the SPN reunion on The Boys. This episode is a barrel of laughs!! Rob and Rich …
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Misha Collins returns to the podcast! He discusses Castiel being more human, feeling secure as a series regular on the show, and the SPN reunion on The Boys. This episode is a barrel of laughs!! Rob and Rich learn about Bartholomew.
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Devil May Care with Alaina Huffman (S9EP2)
Alaina Huffman joins the podcast to talk all things Abbadon. She plays one bad-ass knight from hell! Hear about stunt double hands, being naked in a tub, and cool costumes. Rob and Rich learn more about the …
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Alaina Huffman joins the podcast to talk all things Abbadon. She plays one bad-ass knight from hell! Hear about stunt double hands, being naked in a tub, and cool costumes. Rob and Rich learn more about the bible. Rich wants to be Abbadon.
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I Think I'm Gonna Like It Here with Tahmoh Penikett (S9EP1)
Tahmoh Penikett joins the podcast to talk about Ezekiel (and maybe another character). Tahmoh talks about his journey as an actor, meet fans at conventions, and Jared's influence on his performance. Rob and …
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Tahmoh Penikett joins the podcast to talk about Ezekiel (and maybe another character). Tahmoh talks about his journey as an actor, meet fans at conventions, and Jared's influence on his performance. Rob and Rich learn about seeing things on your death bed.
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FLASHBACK to In My Time of Dying with Jensen Ackles and Jeffrey Dean Morgan (S2EP1.2)
Here is a flashback to season 2, episode 1. Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Jensen Ackles join Richard Speight Jr. and Rob Benedict for the launch of Season 2 of the podcast. They dive into details about In My Time of …
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Here is a flashback to season 2, episode 1.
Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Jensen Ackles join Richard Speight Jr. and Rob Benedict for the launch of Season 2 of the podcast. They dive into details about In My Time of Dying. These guys respect each other so much. Hear inappropriate stories from the set and about the new matching tattoos they just got.
We'll be back with Season 9 on May 18th!
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[REDACTED] S1E1: False Start (Part 1)
This is a new podcast we want to put on your radar! Introducing [REDACTED]; from Athan (The Grotto) and Jamie Petronis (The Cellar Letters) Following the death of his twin, failing actor Jacob Kane assumes his …
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This is a new podcast we want to put on your radar!
Introducing [REDACTED]; from Athan (The Grotto) and Jamie Petronis (The Cellar Letters)
Following the death of his twin, failing actor Jacob Kane assumes his late-brother’s life in hopes of a fresh start. Instead of finding stability, Jacob finds himself working within The [REDACTED] Unit, a covert agency tasked with containing impossible creatures and phenomena. As he becomes entangled with paranormal forces and secret agendas, Jacob begins to discover a sense of belonging in a place he never expected.
Equal parts horror and workplace satire, [REDACTED] takes inspiration from late 90s & early 2000s television like procedural monster-of-the-week shows X-files, Supernatural, and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and the classic ensemble banter of Brooklyn Nine-Nine and Psych.
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[REDACTED] S1E1: False Start (Part 1)
Jacob Kane makes a big life change
Starring:
Jamie Petronis as Jacob Kane
Athan as Eli Reyes
Dan Morris as The Strict Producer
Jeffrey Reddick as The Anxious Screenwriter
Karen Neat as Server
James Spurney as as Phil (Landlord)
Nathan Lundsford as Jordan Kane
Harlan Guthrie as ■■■
Zoe D. Lee as ■■■■■
Ben Akira Spencer as Officer
Ioana Adascalitei as Jody (Paramedic)
General Show Warnings
Recurring themes of violence and peril, horror, death and grief, sudden & unsettling audio, use of weapons, secret-police/cover-ups, strong language.
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Season 8 Podcast Finale!
Rob, Rich, and Steve pick their 5 favorite episodes from season 8. It is an impossible task because 8 is great (and not Speight!). Jeremy Carver had a great first season as the showrunner of Supernatural. There …
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Rob, Rich, and Steve pick their 5 favorite episodes from season 8. It is an impossible task because 8 is great (and not Speight!). Jeremy Carver had a great first season as the showrunner of Supernatural. There are several iconic episodes. Which ones will make the list? Listen to find out!
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Sacrifice with Mark Sheppard (S8EP23)
Mark Sheppard (Crowley) returns to the podcast to talk about the season finale of season 8 of Supernatural. Hear about him sitting in the chair, blowback for the opening scene with Kim Rhodes, and other …
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Mark Sheppard (Crowley) returns to the podcast to talk about the season finale of season 8 of Supernatural. Hear about him sitting in the chair, blowback for the opening scene with Kim Rhodes, and other behind-the-scenes stories. Rob and Rich learn angels being cast from heaven.
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