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Border Crossings, Burner Phones, and Surviving Interrogation in China with Josh Summers from All Things Secured

August 29, 2026 · 1 h 10 min

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Josh Summers spent a decade living in western China before 14 police officers showed up at his door, accused him of espionage, and confiscated every device his family owned. This Techlore Talks interview covers what 17 days of interrogation taught him about digital privacy while traveling, and the practical steps that could make the difference for you.

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🔗 SOURCES & LINKS
• All Things Secured (website): https://www.allthingssecured.com/
• All Things Secured (YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/@AllThingsSecured
• All Things Secured (Odysee): https://odysee.com/@AllThingsSecured

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

  • (00:00) - INTRO
  • (02:03) - LIVING ABROAD
  • (04:12) - WHY ASIA?
  • (05:29) - GETTING KICKED OUT OF CHINA
  • (12:16) - LIFE AFTER DEPORTATION
  • (17:25) - PARALLELS BETWEEN THEN & NOW
  • (20:41) - AMERICAN VS. CHINESE CITIZENS
  • (24:07) - HOW CULTURE IMPACTS SURVEILLANCE
  • (27:22) - SPONSOR SEGMENT
  • (28:53) - TAKEAWAYS FROM JOSH'S EXPERIENCE
  • (34:02) - OBSCURITY
  • (36:21) - TRAVEL ADVICE
  • (37:51) - SECONDARY DEVICES
  • (38:57) - NEVER TAKE YOUR PHONE HERE
  • (40:23) - SILENT TRAVEL RISK
  • (44:06) - EASTERN VS. WESTERN SURVEILLANCE
  • (46:46) - THE EFFECTS OF INVISIBILITY
  • (51:16) - ALL THINGS SECURED ORIGINS
  • (54:10) - WHERE TO START
  • (56:28) - VIEWING PRIVACY DIFFERENTLY
  • (01:02:29) - FINDING BALANCE
  • (01:06:43) - FINAL THOUGHTS
  • (01:07:35) - HOW TO FOLLOW

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