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Telecom Insider Explains What Your Carrier Actually Sees (Cape Interview)

March 29, 2026 · 1 h 31 min

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Most people think turning off location services protects them from being tracked. It doesn't. In this interview, David Dunn from privacy-focused cellular provider Cape breaks down what carriers actually collect, how threats like IMSI catchers and SIM swaps work, and how Cape is building a mobile network specifically designed to minimize that exposure.

🔗 SOURCES & LINKS
• Cape: https://www.cape.co
• Cape + Proton collab: https://www.cape.co/cape-and-proton

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 INTRO
00:01:01 WHAT CELLULAR CARRIERS SEE
00:02:50 THE CONCERNS
00:04:08 ABUSE OF DATA
00:05:28 LTT SIM SWAP ATTACK
00:06:33 PHONE CALL BEHIND-THE-SCENES
00:12:24 CELL TOWER TRIANGULATION & GEOFENCING
00:15:32 LOCATION SERVICES
00:16:25 CALL DATA & SMS RECORDS
00:19:24 SMS VS. EMAIL SECURITY
00:20:23 SIM SWAPPING + IMSI CATCHERS
00:24:09 CELL TOWER TRIANGULATION + GEOFENCING SOLUTIONS
00:26:38 CALL DATA RECORD + SMS SOLUTIONS
00:28:48 WI-FI CALLING
00:30:54 SS7 SIGNALING ATTACK PROTECTION
00:32:25 4G VS. 5G PRIVACY
00:36:34 USER AGENTS + CUSTOM ROMS
00:42:15 DEVICE PROTECTION
00:46:06 CAPE'S APPROACH
00:55:01 MOBILE CORE
00:59:18 CDR DELETION
01:00:06 IMSI ROTATION
01:00:52 OTHER USER CONFIGURABLE OPTIONS
01:04:05 PHONE NUMBER REPUTATION
01:05:29 ISSUES WITH PRIVACY TOOLS
01:08:22 OBSCURA
01:10:48 REGISTRATION
01:13:04 TRUST & VERIFICATION
01:15:37 COMPATIBILITY
01:17:33 AVAILABILITY
01:17:54 ROAMING
01:18:36 LAW ENFORCEMENT REQUESTS
01:21:15 PALANTIR
01:23:25 PROTON PARTNERSHIP
01:25:05 WHO IS CAPE FOR?
01:26:43 TELL US SOMETHING SHOCKING
01:29:28 OUTRO

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