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Is the World Too Dependent on American Tech? (Dutch Journalist Interview)

December 31, 2025 · 60 min

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This is a different kind of Techlore Talks. Henry sits down with Marloes de Koning, a Dutch tech reporter from NRC. This wide-ranging conversation explores tech policy from a journalist's perspective, and asks hard questions about age verification, digital sovereignty, news consumption, the rules & role of journalism, and more.


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• NRC: https://www.nrc.nl

• Twitter/X: https://x.com/MarloesdeK

• Marloes' Age Verification article: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/04/19/het-hoofdpijndossier-van-de-porno-industrie-controleren-hoe-oud-je-bezoekers-zijn-a4196562

• Marloes' Tornado Cash article: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/03/25/hoe-een-rus-uit-amstelveen-met-zijn-cryptomixer-voor-de-rechter-in-den-bosch-belandt-a4194203

• Marloes' Birthday of the Cookie article: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/10/11/hoe-het-internet-een-geheugen-kreeg-a4868671


⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

00:00 INTRO

01:27 EARLY YEARS IN JOURNALISM

02:25 LEARNING & WRITING ABOUT TECH

04:28 DIGITAL SOVEREIGNTY

07:08 LOCATION OF DATA/COMPANIES

09:01 THE RULES OF JOURNALISM

10:31 THE ROLE OF JOURNALISM

19:11 INCORRECT ASSUMPTIONS

20:34 HOW TO FIND TRUSTWORTHY NEWS

30:06 IS CONSUMING NEWS EVEN WORTH IT?

34:55 AGE VERIFICATION

45:13 DO PEOPLE CARE ABOUT PRIVACY?

53:18 MARLOES' DIGITAL RIGHTS JOURNEY

55:19 WHAT'S THE END GOAL?

57:53 HOW TO FOLLOW MARLOES

59:06 OUTRO


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