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NewSteven Strogatz on the Humanity of MathOctober 28, 2026 · 1 h 43 min
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Grant Sanderson, creator of 3Blue1Brown, talks with mathematicians and educators about the ideas that drive them and the future of the field in the age of AI.

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  1. Steven Strogatz on the Humanity of Math

    1 h 43 minSeason 1 · Episode 6

    Steven Strogatz, a mathematician at Cornell and author of The Joy of x, Infinite Powers, and most recently Big Math (with Alex Townsend), returns to the podcast for a conversation about what AI means for the …

    Show notes

    Steven Strogatz, a mathematician at Cornell and author of The Joy of x, Infinite Powers, and most recently Big Math (with Alex Townsend), returns to the podcast for a conversation about what AI means for the field of mathematics. Steven believes that the field is anything but dead. In fact, this might be the best time to go into math.

    They discuss whether human understanding still matters when machines can find the answers, why we may come to value our own imperfections more, and what the job of a mathematician could look like in the years ahead. The conversation also covers a paper-folding puzzle that turns students who hate math into students who get it, a passage from Ecclesiastes, and why, for Steven, math has always been about people.


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    00:00 Relaunching the 3b1b Podcast

    01:58 AI is the conversation among mathematicians

    03:21 What do you tell a student considering math?

    04:06 AI as the great equalizer

    06:20 Mathematical "rizz"

    09:17 What if AI becomes a superhuman explainer?

    12:34 Will "mathematician" still be a profession?

    13:37 Finding humanity more precious

    16:58 What's left for those who want to be pioneers?

    21:39 Is solving the problem the point?

    28:01 Two cultures of mathematics, and pure vs. applied

    29:14 How Maxwell's math revealed the nature of light

    33:55 Is understanding overrated?

    43:50 Fermat vs. Goldbach: math that generates more math

    47:43 Will human mathematicians exist?

    54:44 Why learn math when AI can do it?

    1:01:28 What should earn academic status?

    1:05:21 Ecclesiastes: "Everything is beautiful in its time"

    1:07:40 Does mathematical beauty depend on problem solving?

    1:12:44 Math Explorations and the one-cut triangle puzzle

    1:18:57 Should we still grade homework?

    1:24:29 Research in the service of teaching

    1:28:23 What should a math PhD look like now?

    1:33:30 Poincaré, Lorenz and the birth of chaos theory

    1:37:39 What's next for Steve

  2. 5 - Tai-Danae Bradley: Where math meets language

    1 h 36 min

    Tai-Danae Bradley does research applying tools from physics to understanding language models, all under the broader umbrella of category theory. She is also the brilliant mind behind the blog …

    Show notes

    Tai-Danae Bradley does research applying tools from physics to understanding language models, all under the broader umbrella of category theory. She is also the brilliant mind behind the blog https://www.math3ma.com/

    Try out the episode sponsor: http://brilliant.org/3b1b

  3. 4 - Dianna Cowern: Dead or Alive

    1 h 25 minSeason 1 · Episode 4

    Dianna Cowern is the host of Physics Girl: https://www.youtube.com/c/physicsgirl Try out the episode sponsor: http://brilliant.org/3b1b Contents: 0:00 - Intro 0:47 - Ad, Brilliant 2:03 - Relationship with math …

    Show notes

    Dianna Cowern is the host of Physics Girl: https://www.youtube.com/c/physicsgirl

    Try out the episode sponsor: http://brilliant.org/3b1b


    Contents:

    0:00 - Intro

    0:47 - Ad, Brilliant

    2:03 - Relationship with math growing up

    9:05 - Thoughts on teaching

    16:36 - When students are genuinely curious

    22:02 - Physics at MIT

    27:53 - Alternate value systems

    35:01 - Starting Physics Girl

    40:20 - Taking down videos

    48:49 - Authenticity on YouTube

    53:17 - Advice on documenting learning

    59:13 - Giving talks

    1:07:51 - Dead or Alive

     1:12:37 - Storytelling in explainer videos


    Edited by Ralph Crewe

    https://www.youtube.com/c/IsntThatSomething/

  4. 3 - Steven Strogatz: In and out of love with math

    1 h 54 min

    Steven Strogatz, an applied mathematician at Cornell, is a prominent figure in the field of nonlinear dynamics and chaos, and a widely beloved popularizer of math. Episode sponsor: https://brilliant.org/3b1b …

    Show notes

    Steven Strogatz, an applied mathematician at Cornell, is a prominent figure in the field of nonlinear dynamics and chaos, and a widely beloved popularizer of math.

    Episode sponsor: https://brilliant.org/3b1b

    Brilliant is a great site/app for being more active in learning math.


    --- Books by Strogatz which we discussed ---

    Chaos and Nonlinear dynamics

    https://amzn.to/3lFQjrU


    Infinite powers

    https://amzn.to/3AnvXIg


    Unpublished appendix about Newton's letters to Leibniz: 

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5436e695e4b07f1e91b30155/t/5dd434fb9d105d031ded69de/1574188283323/Appendix+2+-+Newton+on+infinite+series+and+the+Epistola+Posterior+v4.pdf


    --- Other things which came up ---


    Strogatz's senior thesis:

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5436e695e4b07f1e91b30155/t/5dca1c993141bb5946c54b45/1573526688118/The-mathematics-of-supercoiled-DNA.pdf


    His first published paper:

    https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/78/3/1461.full.pdf


    Crick’s paper about linking numbers and nucleosomes with the memorable comment that inspired his experiment with the ribbon:

    https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/73/8/2639.full.pdf


    The 4-dog chase problem and its solution.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jun/03/can-you-solve-it-dogs-in-pursuit

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jun/03/did-you-solve-it-dogs-in-pursuit


    For a full solution with calculus, see Strogatz's book "The Calculus of Friendship"

    https://amzn.to/3CyVe48


    Survey for kids on their desired occupation:

    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lego-group-kicks-off-global-program-to-inspire-the-next-generation-of-space-explorers-as-nasa-celebrates-50-years-of-moon-landing-300885423.html

     

    A radical approach to real analysis

    https://amzn.to/2VwtgF3


    Twitter thread on what, morally, a normal subgroup is.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/sbagley/status/1296211024534622208


    Leibniz formula via patterns from primes

    https://youtu.be/NaL_Cb42WyY


    --- Table of contents ---

    0:00 - Intro

    1:15 - Ad

    1:59 - The perfect problem for a high school student

    12:43 - Starting the Princeton undergrad

    22:52 - The most beautiful proof

    26:58 - What makes someone love a problem?

    36:05 - Putting lessons online

    41:57 - In and out of pre-med

    47:05 - The geometry of DNA

    58:53 - Using teaching as a means to learn

    1:09:47 - Do students like history?

    1:18:39 - The truth of Newton and Leibniz

    1:23:29 - Archimedes, a true great

    1:28:32 - Pitfalls of pure math exposition

    1:39:03 - "Morality" in math

    1:43:20 - An under-motivated culture

    1:51:48 - What's next?

  5. 2 - Sal Khan: Beyond Khan Academy

    45 min

    In this conversation with Sal Khan, we discuss his new project (Schoolhouse.world) as well as the Khan Lab School that he started in 2014. Sal's new tutoring platform: https://schoolhouse.world/ The Khan Lab …

    Show notes

    In this conversation with Sal Khan, we discuss his new project (Schoolhouse.world) as well as the Khan Lab School that he started in 2014.

    Sal's new tutoring platform: https://schoolhouse.world/
    The Khan Lab School: https://www.khanlabschool.org/

    Learn more about this episode's sponsor, Brilliant: https://brilliant.org/3b1b
    Visit that link to get 20% off an annual subscription, and to let them know you came from here.

  6. 1 - Alex Kontorovich: Improving math

    1 h 24 minSeason 1 · Episode 1

    Alex Kontorovich is a research mathematician at Rutgers University, a distinguished visiting professor at the MoMath Museum, and Editor-in-Chief of Experimental Mathematics, among other things. The tweet …

    Show notes

    Alex Kontorovich is a research mathematician at Rutgers University, a distinguished visiting professor at the MoMath Museum, and Editor-in-Chief of Experimental Mathematics, among other things. 

    The tweet referenced at the end: https://twitter.com/AlexKontorovich/status/1172715174786228224


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