The Consequences Podcast
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- every two weeks
- Latest episode
- Nov 9, 2026
About the podcast
Two men battle against the elements to explain, examine and enjoy beloved music - and musicians - to bring underrated masterpieces to the attention of a hostile world. Oh, and 80+ previous episodes exploring the beautiful universe of 10cc.
Episodes 100
The Consequences Podcast 101 - Lol for Art's Sake
In this second part of our extraordinary encounter with Lol in his beautiful home studio, we chat specifically with him and his producer Des Burkinshaw to discuss their fascinating new project. Over a series of …
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In this second part of our extraordinary encounter with Lol in his beautiful home studio, we chat specifically with him and his producer Des Burkinshaw to discuss their fascinating new project.
Over a series of podcasts, the two will explore different corners of Lol's extraordinary and diverse artistic career, while sharing the airspace with key individuals who were part of that journey. Each conversation will centre on a specific "artefact" from Lol's canon, as a spark for reminiscences and exclusive stories. When you think back across all those spheres - art and graphics, music, the Gizmo, music video, publishing, film and commercials directing, and others - you'll realise that that's a LOT of potential podcast guests!
And that guest list is expanding daily. They only give a *few* clues here, and we'll help keep their powder dry on the others (and some of the jaw-dropping artefacts!). It's star-studded; but the less-famous names will reveal incredible projects that we've hitherto heard very little about. We can't wait.
Please subscribe to the "Lol Creme Archive" on YouTube @LolCremeOfficial so that you don't miss any of the imminent pods, and have a look at their Patreon site for way more treats: https://www.patreon.com/cw/LolCremeOf...)
As an unexpected and special bonus, our episode this week features a wonderful section where Lol gives a heart-felt account of his respect for, and split with, Kevin. Bless them both.
The Consequences podcast 100 - We Finally Got Him! An afternoon with Lol Creme.
Hello folks, and welcome back (at last!) to the pod. When Sean threw his weary toys out of the pram after the 50cc gigs in Stockport in 2022, he vowed that the only reason he'd come out of retirement would be …
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Hello folks, and welcome back (at last!) to the pod. When Sean threw his weary toys out of the pram after the 50cc gigs in Stockport in 2022, he vowed that the only reason he'd come out of retirement would be if we finally got to sit down with Mr Creme... And here we are, thanks to producer Des Burkinshaw, who's currently launching an incredible series of podcasts featuring Lol and his many partners in artistic crime! If you're expecting a comprehensive, pre-prepared, sit-down interview covering the timeline of Lol's career, I'm afraid that'd be way off-beam! We think we captured something even better than that; we had the absolute joy of several hours with Lol, in a ramshackle, random and hilarious ramble through so many of Lol's adventures:
His collection of original Gizmo bits and its fascinating development and experiments, four extraordinary studio tapes, his exploits with Kevin, his beautiful and prolific painting, delicious anecdotes from his four years with 10cc (with some sneeky previews of forthcoming studio outtakes), the mad invention of Consequences, reminiscences from his and Kevin's 1980s recording in his old studio downstairs, his projects with Trevor Horn and The Producers, plus a wonderful musical treat... We had SUCH a blast - and our only hope is that you enjoy it half as much as we did!
You can subscribe here at https://consequences.podbean.com/ Thanks so much for listening. 🙏 Coming very soon:
A chat with Lol and Des on their captivating new artistic project (their Patreon site is here: https://www.patreon.com/cw/LolCremeOf...)
Deep-dives on the wonderful new box set from Cherry Red/Grapefruit records...
The Consequences Podcast 99 - Pany Turns the Tables: Paul and Sean on 50cc
Hi everyone. It's been a while! Paul and Sean have been busy, of late... We may have been embroiled in an uber-ambitious tribute gig, but secretly, Sean's just enjoyed not having to edit endless podcasts in the …
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Hi everyone. It's been a while!
Paul and Sean have been busy, of late... We may have been embroiled in an uber-ambitious tribute gig, but secretly, Sean's just enjoyed not having to edit endless podcasts in the wee small hours these past few months!
In the meantime, our good chum Panayiotis Bogdanos chimed in from San Leandro, California with a proposition: let's talk about 50cc... We've missed the old chap, so we had to give in! We really hope you enjoy our random snapshot of our lovingly-concocted live rendition of what this podcast has been all about.
Pany quizzes us on the genesis of the 50cc project, the concept and the crazy ideas, the songs we were dying to play, the challenges, the crushing disappointments and the surprising successes, and of course the extraordinary team that we suddenly found ourselves with on those two nights in Stockport on June 24th and 25th 2022.
You'll hear lots of music clips here, including some outtakes that don't appear in the released video, but also a sample of how we attempted to capture Consequences, Godley and Creme solo and 10cc's eclectic career in three hours. The full video download and YouTube stream can be found here:
https://www.seanmacreavy.com/50ccshop
We truly hope you enjoy our efforts. We've loved doing this, and the gigs were just the icing on the cake!
This episode was (mostly) edited by Pany. Cheers old boy!
The Consequences Podcast 98 - Do You Like Würms? Bull Session with Iain Hornal pt 2
Paul and Sean make no apologies for enjoying this conversation as much as we did! Iain continues to give us fascinating insights into his eclectic and accomplished solo work, including last year’s excellent …
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Paul and Sean make no apologies for enjoying this conversation as much as we did! Iain continues to give us fascinating insights into his eclectic and accomplished solo work, including last year’s excellent ‘Lockdown’ album Fly Away Home. But it’s inevitable that we’re frothing at the mouth to hear more about his experience of playing in the touring carnations of 10cc with Graham, ELO with Jeff Lynne and Yes with Anderson, Wakeman and Rabin. His accounts are amazing, as is his musicianship. Check out the many live clips on YouTube to see what we mean. Stepping into the late Chris Squire’s shoes is no mean feat; nor is recreating the luscious vocal textures of Jeff Lynne’s best production work. We also discuss 10cc and Graham’s recent publicity work for the new compilation LP, the thrilling unveiling of Natural Wonder and the new piece with Brian May. Finally, we couldn’t resist the temptation to include some of the joyous rabbit hole we dived down on immediate contact with Iain. Before we’d even started to talk about 10cc, solo projects, ELO or Yes, we discovered a huge shared love. And indeed rabbited on about it for a while... For completists only, we suspect! ;- ) This will be our last podcast for a little while, as we really need to focus on 'getting on with IT'...The Consequences Podcast 97 - Saying the Word with Iain Hornal pt. 1
Paul and Sean had such a great time talking to established 10cc lead singer Iain Hornal. We fought and lost an uncontrollable urge to geek out about our shared love of The Beach Boys, but eventually got down to …
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Paul and Sean had such a great time talking to established 10cc lead singer Iain Hornal. We fought and lost an uncontrollable urge to geek out about our shared love of The Beach Boys, but eventually got down to business! Iain has immense musical talent. The multi-instrumentalist came close with several bands before starring as Macca in the West End (alongside another friend of the show, Paul Canning). He later joined Jeff Lynne’s epic live ELO touring band, stepped in to fill Chris Squire’s shoes in the Anderson/Wakeman Yes line-up, and of course has spent nearly ten years as lead singer with 10cc. We explore his 10cc journey, hear lots of stories of his times with Graham and the band. We get somewhat giddy at his account of his octopus-like musical role! He’s done some cracking writing with GG as well of course, most notably their collaboration Say the Word (with Kevin Godley as guest vocalist) from his excellent 2017 solo album The Games Begins With the Lights Out. The song’s an absolute corker, and has rightfully nestled in the 10cc live set. There was just so much to talk about. We’ve cut our chat into two sections: this one mostly centred around 10cc and Graham, the next one all points North, South, East and especially West! ;- )The Consequences Podcast 96 - Time, It’s a Flyer with your pilot Stuart Tosh
Sean and Paul are thrilled to welcome to the pod one Stuart Tosh, the ‘man at the back’ who would join drummer Paul Burgess to share honours on 10cc percussion duties live and in the studio from 1977 to 1983 …
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Sean and Paul are thrilled to welcome to the pod one Stuart Tosh, the ‘man at the back’ who would join drummer Paul Burgess to share honours on 10cc percussion duties live and in the studio from 1977 to 1983. But to describe Stuart as ‘10cc drummer’ is akin to the tip of a musical iceberg, and this chat illustrates that! There is so, so much more to discuss... The first section focuses on one of the podcasters’ beloved ‘70s bands: Pilot. Were they the Scottish 10cc, or were 10cc the English Pilot? Discuss. ;- ) We talk about Stuart’s musical beginnings in Scotland via EMI records, his discovery of the talent and technology being nurtured at Craighall Studios in Edinburgh, recording at Abbey Road and in Canada, and his whirlwind three albums and promo tours with his Pilot bandmates. It’s a treat to hear these stories (as well as some of their criminally underrated songs)! His 10cc accounts are just as fascinating. We talk about his thoughts on members of the band, some extraordinary gigging adventures and of course special focus on one of his rare co-writes and lead vocals… The three of us compare muso notes on the unsung gem that is Reds in My Bed! We had real fun delving further into Stuart’s fascinating career, with some wonderful snapshots of his time working with producer Alan Parsons, Camel, Cliff Richard, Rick Fenn and numerous other luminaries. The great inter-connectedness of the '60s-'70s music scenes is something that never fails to gob-smack us.The Consequences Podcast 95 - Charlie Thomas pt. 2: Lots Of Love or Laughing Out Loud?
Wow. Simply put, this is nothing short of a coup. A decade ago, Charlie Thomas succeeded in landing an interview that Sean and Paul have been chasing unsuccessfully for two years! A Lol-tastic 90 minutes then …
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Wow. Simply put, this is nothing short of a coup. A decade ago, Charlie Thomas succeeded in landing an interview that Sean and Paul have been chasing unsuccessfully for two years! A Lol-tastic 90 minutes then, with exclusive and breathtaking interview outtakes from Charlie’s brilliant documentary, ‘I’m Not in Love: the 10cc Story’. These extracts have remained unheard - by anyone - since they were shot in 2012. Thank you so much to Charlie, his production company Special Treats and to Lol for allowing us to share these amazing clips. Many thanks too to https://vintagerock.com/ for Junkman's excellent Kevin Godley interview snippets.The Consequences Podcast 94 - Charlie Thomas on The Worst Documentaries in the World
You may not be familiar with this Sky Sports TV presenter, but you’re almost certainly aware of some of Charlie Thomas’s brilliant music documentaries. Paul and Sean focus on two of these today: ‘I’m Not in …
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You may not be familiar with this Sky Sports TV presenter, but you’re almost certainly aware of some of Charlie Thomas’s brilliant music documentaries. Paul and Sean focus on two of these today: ‘I’m Not in Love: The Story of 10cc’ and the brilliantly quirky ‘XTC: This is Pop’. Both truly hit the nail on the head with their subject matter: respectful, sensitive and full of wonderful insights. Charlie’s accounts of his time sitting opposite Lol, Graham, Kevin, Eric, Andy and Colin are captivating. None more so than Eric: this truly is the most revealing account we’ve ever heard about the complex person that is Eric Stewart. And while we're here, why don't we indulge Charlie with his fascinating ideas for re-sequencing three classic 10cc albums? Great fun! We’re massively in debt to the films’ production company Special Treats for access to this wonderful material. Thank you. And sorry about the slightly weird and variable audio quality today, with some music clips coming in all over the place: schoolboy errors on Sean's part this week! :- ) Next week is something very special indeed: Charlie’s been very generous in sharing (and allowing us to share) some wonderful outtakes from his long and delightful conversation with Lol Creme. We can’t wait!The Consequences Podcast 93 - Chronicles of Modern Life: Henry Priestman on The Christians, his solo career and more rarities with Graham Gouldman
Paul and Sean were so glad to invite Henry back for another whistle-stop, rollicking ride through the rest of his career. We kick off with The Christians, his best-known venture, with our analysis of their …
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Paul and Sean were so glad to invite Henry back for another whistle-stop, rollicking ride through the rest of his career. We kick off with The Christians, his best-known venture, with our analysis of their trademark harmonies, Motown influences and ‘gritty’ messages. We have some tasty baked goodies to share with you too, notably a live performance from one of the band’s very first gigs. We coo over two particular hits - both extremely beautiful and poignant. We listen heart in mouth as he describes the moment last December when he and the band completed a moving tribute to Iranian hostage Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe. The reworked Christians song ’Naz Don’t Cry’ created a stir on social media just before Christmas 2021. Despite Henry’s solo career not kicking off in earnest until the start the last decade - at the tender age of 53 - he has no end of fantastic stories about his prolific activity as composer, collaborator and producer in the 90s and 00s, including Take That’s Mark Owen, no less. Signing once again to Island Records for his acclaimed album “The Chronicles of Modern Life”, followed some years later by “The Last Mad Surge of Youth” and "Six of One & Half a Dozen of the Other” (with Les Glover), all three records show an emerging wryness, warmth and self-deprecation, and Henry is hilariously honest about his outlook on life, his music and getting older!
As an absolute treat for fans of 10cc and Graham Gouldman, we’re thrilled to be able to share with you some of a pile of demo tapes Henry’s shared with us. All feature him and Graham in the throes of collaboration, and *no one* has heard these! Many of these terrific songs were largely intended for inclusion in the hit West End show Dreamboats and Petticoats. Other tapes are one-off recordings with such collaborators as John Campbell from It’s Immaterial. They’re terrific, and we’re really looking forward to hearing new versions of some of them featured on Henry’s forthcoming album ‘Beautiful Ruins’.The Consequences Podcast 92 - Yachting Types: Henry Priestman on 10cc, Graham Gouldman, Yachts and his early years
Welcome to the first of our two knockabout chats with the irrepressible Henry Priestman. Famous for being The Christians’ songwriter, he’s less well-known for his early work with cult Liverpool post-punk …
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Welcome to the first of our two knockabout chats with the irrepressible Henry Priestman. Famous for being The Christians’ songwriter, he’s less well-known for his early work with cult Liverpool post-punk outfits Yachts and fellow Merseysiders It’s Immaterial, his prolific songwriting with luminaries galore, or his roles as producer and, more recently, solo artist. His stories about his musical adventures are astounding and hilarious in equal measure. One of his frequent collaborators of course is one Graham Gouldman. We have a lovely sneaky peek at demos of some of the lovely songs he and Graham penned, both for album projects and in a small bedroom at Huntsham Court, during their EMI songwriter weeks. It’s so great being a fly on the wall at the moment these songs are premiered to their illustrious peers! We were so proud to be able to bake, restore and capture a huge box of tapes that Henry sent us last year. Some of them feature never-before heard live and studio recordings by the Christians, but we’ll have to wait until next week to hear those! In this episode, we focus on some impossibly rare demos by Yachts. Mark Kermode and Henry’s other fanatical followers will be over the moon. And of course we have to ask Henry about 10cc and *that* triple album! Fun like this surely can’t be referred to as ‘work’!The Consequences Podcast 91 - Paul Canning: Jiggery Pokery on the 10cc Bandwagon
Paul and Sean had the pleasure of meeting the highly affable Paul Canning at his merchandise stall after his delightful support spot at Graham Gouldman’s Heart Full of Songs gig in Manchester last autumn. He's …
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Paul and Sean had the pleasure of meeting the highly affable Paul Canning at his merchandise stall after his delightful support spot at Graham Gouldman’s Heart Full of Songs gig in Manchester last autumn. He's a talented multi-instrumentalist and singer, prolific songwriter and extremely adaptable singer with 10cc. We are of course dying to know what it’s like to be given the onerous task of being Eric, Lol and Kevin live on stage, and Paul’s stories are riveting! There’s a lovely story behind him crossing paths with the rest of the boys, too. You can hear our ‘10cc envy’ in every second of this pod! Much of the pod though looks into Paul’s eclectic, interesting and very enjoyable solo catalogue. And he’s popping out albums at a furious rate! All of them are a proper fruit basket of tasty influences (right up our street) and the songwriting’s top-notch. On top of this, Paul has forged a successful sideline in acoustic covers, which have had no small success.The Consequences Podcast 90 - Paul Burgess pt 3: Journeyman par excellence
The only thing we can say is WOW. Being the go-to 10cc live drummer for just short of 50 years has been a surprisingly small part of Paul Burgess's drumming career. This is a journeyman and a half, taking in …
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The only thing we can say is WOW.
Being the go-to 10cc live drummer for just short of 50 years has been a surprisingly small part of Paul Burgess's drumming career. This is a journeyman and a half, taking in the likes of Invisible Girls, Jethro Tull, Camel, Magna Carta, The Hee Bee Gee Bees, The Christians, Icicle Works, Gloria Gaynor, Alvin Stardust, Engelbert Humperdink, Joan Armatrading, Gilbert O'Sullivan, The Blockheads, The Helicasters and dozens more. He's rubbed shoulders with members of many bands: Strawbs, Fairport, Wings, Argent and many other Folk, Rock, Pop and Prog luminaries.
He also talks us through the later 10cc albums he *didn't* play on, and his much later reunion with Graham for 10cc mk 4.
Been round the block, this lad! And many thanks to Henry for laying his hands on that fabulous session tape.The Consequences Podcast 89 - Carol Jason and The Ballad of the Shape of Things, part 2
Here’s the second part of Carol Jason’s funny and moving account of her summer of ’67. Will Black, Brown and Beige’s dreams come true? Paul and Sean have loved this parable of the three Pop hopefuls. We hope …
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Here’s the second part of Carol Jason’s funny and moving account of her summer of ’67.
Will Black, Brown and Beige’s dreams come true? Paul and Sean have loved this parable of the three Pop hopefuls. We hope you have too. Some of the rare musical treats here are really unexpected and special.The Consequences Podcast 88 - Carol Jason and The Ballad of the Shape of Things, part 1
We're pausing our sequence of three chats with Paul Burgess to feature someone with an even earlier, close association with the 10cc fold. Carol Jason was seventeen, and one third of folk-based outfit Black …
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We're pausing our sequence of three chats with Paul Burgess to feature someone with an even earlier, close association with the 10cc fold.
Carol Jason was seventeen, and one third of folk-based outfit Black, Brown and Beige when, in 1967, for a white hot period of six months - her band found themselves right at the centre of the action. Managed by Harvey Lisberg and working closely with Graham Gouldman, they recorded at two legendary London studios, whilst jostling for songs penned by one of the biggest hit writers of the age (Graham). Ultimately. no recordings were issued and the band moved on to other things. However, as we shall hear, these formative experiences started Carol on a career as a professional musician that continues to this day.
Carol's 1967 diary forms the basis of this episode, brought to life by her honesty and irrepressible personality, in this chat with Sean and Paul. We believe NONE of this story has been told before, or even known of - and it speaks well of Harvey, Graham and the Manchester music scene in general. It is an intimate and somewhat innocent portrait of another age. And speaking of age, how young the protagonists were - Carol turns 18 and Graham 21 during the course of the story.
But... there is more! Thanks to Carol's generosity, Sean and Paul have restored and brought back to life several unique acetate recordings, featuring Carol and her band, as well as a swathe of previously unknown Graham songs and recordings. These recordings - and Carol's reaction to hearing them for the first time in 55(!) years - make this a must listen episode. Enjoy.
The Consequences Podcast 87 - Paul Burgess: Bloodied Tourists, 1978 - 83
Welcome to part two of Paul and Sean’s conversation with 10cc’s faithful stoolsman of 49 years! We’re sure this will be a riveting listen for any 10cc fan. We look predominantly at the band’s more turbulent …
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Welcome to part two of Paul and Sean’s conversation with 10cc’s faithful stoolsman of 49 years!
We’re sure this will be a riveting listen for any 10cc fan. We look predominantly at the band’s more turbulent times during the 1980s, after the heady honeymoon of Bloody Tourists. To his incredible credit, Paul B is diplomatic, tactful and fair in all of his accounts. But it must be said that his thoughts on Eric’s sad near-fatal car accident and the subsequent deterioration in the band’s fortunes, and the relationship between Graham and Eric, are the podcast equivalent of 'page-turners’! There is one story, from Paul’s last tour with 10cc mk III, that is toe-curling. We’re delighted to also bring you some audio snippets that have never been heard before - including a 1983 TV appearance, among others - for which we owe Dave Jarvis our thanks, as ever. We’ll be talking to Paul again very soon, and we’re relishing the prospect of digging deep into the less well-known corners of his career.The Consequences Podcast 86 - The Man at the Back: Paul Burgess, pt 1
It’s been a long time coming, but the planets finally lined up to bring 10cc’s second longest-serving member into the Consequences spotlight! Paul Burgess has been the absolute backbone of the band’s live …
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It’s been a long time coming, but the planets finally lined up to bring 10cc’s second longest-serving member into the Consequences spotlight!
Paul Burgess has been the absolute backbone of the band’s live line-up since their very first gig in the Isle of Man in 1973. He of course took over the drum stool for studio projects with Kevin’s departure, and his contributions are exceptional. Hearing his modest explanation for his instinctive and improvisational approach to recording is quite something to hear. In this, the first part of three-episode chat with Paul, we look at his early days as a jobbing drummer on the Manchester scene, his introduction to Strawberry Studios via David Rohl’s band Ankh (later Mandalaband), and his associations with later 10cc members such as Rick Fenn in his 70s Prog Rock outfit Gentlemen. Manchester was a small world, indeed! Paul takes us through his fascinating experience of 10cc Mk I and into the first post-Godley and Creme project, Deceptive Bends.The Consequences Podcast 85 - People Not in Love (for 24 Hours)
We think today’s pod will blow your mind! Paul and Sean are really excited to share with you some extracts from two DAT tapes recorded over 20 years ago. They consist of various mixes made from the original …
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We think today’s pod will blow your mind!
Paul and Sean are really excited to share with you some extracts from two DAT tapes recorded over 20 years ago. They consist of various mixes made from the original multi-track tapes of ’24 Hours’ (from 1983’s Windows in the Jungle album) and ‘People in Love’ (Voodoo Boogie)’. The latter saw some kind of release in poorer quality form on the ’Tenology’ box set. It was of course the very last recording made by all four of 10cc's original members. This fact alone makes this an important historical artefact! On one hand, a failed experiment that Kevin and Lol hated so much, it split up the band! On the other, could there actually be some Strawberry magic hidden in its twenty four tracks? Godley and Creme are certainly on typically creative and off-piste form here, so prepare for some amazing surprises! Eric and Graham’s contributions are sterling too, of course. Your two podcasters have discussed ’24 Hours’ and its accompanying album several times before, but we’ve never had an opportunity to look so closely at the excellent musicianship and beautiful sounds of the original multi-track. A treat in store here then, promise! With huge thanks to the two devoted individuals who retrieved the original studio tapes and mixed these tracks.The Consequences Podcast 84 - 50cc
Today, Sean and Paul are extremely excited to announce our unique tribute concert to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Stockport's most famous band: 10cc! This is a two-night residency at Stockport's Garrick …
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Today, Sean and Paul are extremely excited to announce our unique tribute concert to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Stockport's most famous band: 10cc! This is a two-night residency at Stockport's Garrick Theatre, on Friday 24th and Saturday 25th June 2022. Tickets for both shows can be booked using the link below.
It's going to be an ambitious homage to some incredible music, including *all* the great 10cc hits and a selection of stunning, classic album tracks and lost gems. 50cc will also be showcasing some of the wonderful solo songs written by Lol Creme, Kevin Godley, Graham Gouldman and Eric Stewart since the 1960s. These will include lesser-known classics by The Mockingbirds, Mindbenders, Herman's Hermits, Godley & Creme and Wax. Some of these songs have never been performed live before!
As a special and unique treat for fans of 10cc and Stockport's iconic Strawberry Studios, this concert will feature the first ever live tribute to Godley & Creme's epic 1977 debut album, 'Consequences'.
Ticket link: https://www.ticketsource.co.uk/50ccHope to see you there!
The Consequences Podcast 83 - Waxing lyrical with producer and songwriter Phil Thornalley
Some people have had a disproportionately successful music career, having written, produced, engineered or played on a staggering number of sublime pop records. One such person is Phil Thornalley. Phil cut his …
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Some people have had a disproportionately successful music career, having written, produced, engineered or played on a staggering number of sublime pop records. One such person is Phil Thornalley. Phil cut his teeth in the studio in the late 1970s with pop supremo Mickie Most before a precocious career engineering, producing and/or playing with The Cure, Prefab Sprout, Johnny Hates Jazz and Thompson Twins, among many others. His work on TT’s ‘Into the Gap’ earned him a Grammy nomination. Paul and Sean of course quiz him on his time working with Andrew Gold and Graham Gouldman on their second set of Wax songs, ‘Magnetic Heaven’. Since the ‘80s, he’s enjoyed some spectacular success as a songwriter, most famously perhaps with Natalie Imbruglia’s ‘Torn’ and two number ones for Pixie Lott. He’s also worked with Bryan Adams. So this guy has some pretty spectacular pedigree! Phil’s production style in the mid-late 1980s - along with that of his peers - could be dismissed lazily as dated or of-its-time, but closer examination reveals some delights. We were gobsmacked by his recycling of 10cc’s pioneering tape loop techniques for his work on an ‘80s classic…. We won’t spoil the surprise! The biggest revelation though has been Phil’s own ‘band’ project: his two albums as Astral Drive. Possibly Sean’s favourite new discovery of the year! It’s deliciously great pop, full of hooks, great melodies and 60s/70s sounds, and we have a lot of fun quizzing Phil on his obvious influences: Todd Rundgren features heavily!The Consequences Podcast 82 - Love Will Tear Strawberry Apart - with engineer Jonathan ‘Baz’ Barrett
This episode will be absolute music to the ears not just of Strawberry Studios enthusiasts, but all fans of the 80s and 90s Manchester ('Madchester'!) music scene. Jonathan ‘Baz’ Barrett, better known to this …
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This episode will be absolute music to the ears not just of Strawberry Studios enthusiasts, but all fans of the 80s and 90s Manchester ('Madchester'!) music scene. Jonathan ‘Baz’ Barrett, better known to this podcast as the Stage Manager for the wonderful Strawberry Studios Forever concert in Stockport in September, was a fully-fledged Strawberry recording engineer during its last six years, from 1987 to 1993. His fascinating stories paint a vivid picture of sessions and recordings involving some of Manchester’s most iconic bands. None more so than Joy Division, and we try to illustrate Baz’s amazing account of Martin Hannett’s pioneering production work on Love Will Tear Us Apart with some incredible isolated vocal and instrumental parts. We’ve even tried to re-imagine one of these, so apologies to Mr Hannett if we’ve got this completely wrong… Other tales include Happy Mondays, Stone Roses, Cocteau Twins, the BBC and some other less well-known bands such as The High, Mighty Force, Ashley & Jackson and his own band Rig. This a real love letter to Strawberry’s final years, and it’s only fitting that we ask Baz to name his ‘pet’ Strawberry sound of all time. You won’t be disappointed!The Consequences Podcast 81 - The Dean and Us
Welcome to the Consequences Podcast’s first venture outside the 10cc universe! We’ll still be dipping our toes back into the Kevin/Lol/Graham/Eric sphere as and when, but for now we present an extraordinary …
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Welcome to the Consequences Podcast’s first venture outside the 10cc universe! We’ll still be dipping our toes back into the Kevin/Lol/Graham/Eric sphere as and when, but for now we present an extraordinary conversation with a true songwriting legend: Mr Dean Friedman! Seen unfairly as a one hit wonder, Friedman’s career spans nine eclectic albums and regular international tours. His loyal following is treated to intelligent, witty and beautiful songs. As a talented multi-instrumentalist, he really is the full package. Truly one of the most entertaining people we’ve ever met. Much of this chat centres around his new album, ‘American Lullaby’. It’s a characteristically eclectic affair, with all the usual high-octane wordplay, wit and melodic/harmonic beauty. This time though, he really packs a lyrical punch. Inspired (appalled?) by recent events in American politics, the pandemic and vicious culture wars, Dean’s gloves are off. Prepare to be dazzled by his incredibly thoughtful analysis, honesty, moral and political compass and live performances here. One in particular is a comedy masterclass! We also delve into other parts of his career, notably his underrated ‘Rumpled Romeo’ album from the early 80s, which includes his most successful song, ‘McDonald’s Girl’. There’s also room for discussion on some of his less well-known songs, and of course we *had* to look at ‘Lucky Stars’. Why is it so misunderstood as a ‘guilty pleasure’? And we ought to say at this juncture that we simply couldn’t resist chatting about 10cc and Consequences in this chat! We just can’t help ourselves.Consequences 10cc Podcast 80 - Strawberry Studios Forever: a ‘pod-umentary‘
Here’s our attempt to condense the events of an incredible day into a single podcast! On 18th September 2021, nearly five hundred people convened at the beautiful Stockport Plaza for Strawberry Studios Forever …
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Here’s our attempt to condense the events of an incredible day into a single podcast! On 18th September 2021, nearly five hundred people convened at the beautiful Stockport Plaza for Strawberry Studios Forever. Organised and hosted by the inimitable local music champions John and Rosemary Barratt (of Seven Miles Out fame), this was an incredible live musical tribute to one of the UK’s most influential music hubs. We hear short excerpts from every act, guest appearance or song performed by Peter Wadsworth, Selket (from Ramases), Derailer, Phil Mealey, 11 Hours, Eamonn O’Neal, Liv May & Billy Graham, Dr Uke, The Siders, The Sean and I (and Gizmo!), The Panamas, Paul Ryder (Happy Mondays) and Kashmere. The performed songs covered many of Strawberry's iconic recordings, by the likes of 10cc, Ramones, Joy Division, Happy Mondays, Inspiral carpets, Stone Roses and others. Quite a list! During and after the day, Paul and Sean interviewed a number of the participants, including John Barratt, Selket and Stage Manager Jonathan ‘Baz’ Barrett. All three have unique and fascinating experiences of their time at Strawberry. And the Consequences podcast just wouldn’t be complete without Graham’s contribution, would it?Consequences 10cc podcast 79 - The Great Graham Gouldman Bake-off
Well folks, in the words of Graham Gouldman here: 'Wow.' We'll just leave this one here. Unreleased joys and a reaction from this great musician to die for. Enjoy!
Consequences 10cc podcast 78 - No Words Today, with Graham
As Paul says, 'there's no introduction necessary': Graham's umpteenth pod gig is a joy! We won't give anything away, but we had a lot of surprises here. Graham's 2020-2021 Lockdown project - 'No Words Today' …
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As Paul says, 'there's no introduction necessary': Graham's umpteenth pod gig is a joy!
We won't give anything away, but we had a lot of surprises here. Graham's 2020-2021 Lockdown project - 'No Words Today' - has been a massive technological leap for the so-called 10cc 'bassist'. Total solo artist, guitar virtuoso and self producer/engineer? You bet. For those of you fortunate enough to have downloaded this sumptuous beauty already, you'll know exactly what we're talking about. This is Gouldman firing on cylinders we (and he) didn't even know he had!
And there's an awful lot more to come from this conversation... Coming to a pod near you anon.
Consequences 10cc podcast 77 - Shifting Through the McGears with Mike McCartney
Paul and Sean were delighted to spend an hour and a half in the company of Mike 'McGear' McCartney. And what an entertaining and captivating chap he is! Any fans, like us, of 10cc's Strawberry Studios will of …
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Paul and Sean were delighted to spend an hour and a half in the company of Mike 'McGear' McCartney. And what an entertaining and captivating chap he is!
Any fans, like us, of 10cc's Strawberry Studios will of course know about Mike's memorable visits to Stockport. We give due airtime to the excellent 'McGear' album from 1974, as well as looking at its predecessor 'Woman' from two years earlier.
And there's so, so much more. Mike is a consummate raconteur, and he has us in stitches with his anecdotes about the The Scaffold, Cavern, Abbey Road, celebrity interviews, Strawberry, football with the Pythons, and of course 'our kid', his older brother Paul (including our extraordinary recorded find a few weeks ago).
There were a hundred questions we ran out of time - or simply forgot! - to ask. But we really hope you enjoy our attempt to do justice to the career of this underrated and hugely engaging artist.Consequences 10cc podcast 76 - The Great Alcester Bake-off #3: Hello from Mike, Paul and Linda
Here’s a real departure for us today folks. In the third of our ‘Great Alcester Bake-off’ series, we’ve left the most unusual and surprising until last. Strawberry Archive’s Peter Wadsworth and author of ‘10cc …
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Here’s a real departure for us today folks. In the third of our ‘Great Alcester Bake-off’ series, we’ve left the most unusual and surprising until last. Strawberry Archive’s Peter Wadsworth and author of ‘10cc: The Worst Band in the World’ Liam Newton joined Sean in his Man Cave in Alcester to bake and play a dozen tapes. The rare, unearthed 10cc tapes were joy enough, but our anticipation for this one was intense! Labelled on the box as simply ‘Paul McCartney effects’ tape, we already knew this must have been his creative preparation for some of the more unusual moments on his brother Mike’s (and a proto-Wings') excellent album ‘McGear’ in 1974, recorded simultaneously with 10cc’s masterpiece, ‘Sheet Music’. What we got though was more than that. But we won’t spoil the surprise! You’ll hear most of our random musings and mutterings here, as we go on our little ‘voyage of discovery’ to try to understand the weird and sometimes wonderful fragments on this extraordinary tape. I’m sure you’ll reach your own (correct) conclusions way before we did! You can hear most of the audio from this (and our other 10cc discoveries) in superb 24-bit, 48k quality by becoming a subscriber to our podcast via the link below. Thanks everyone. https://consequences.podbean.com/e/consequences-10cc-podcast-subscribers-premium-exclusive-the-great-alcester-bake-off-tapes/Consequences 10cc podcast 75 - The Great 10cc Alcester Bake-off # 2: Life is a Missing Minestrone
Here’s part two of our three-part series, reliving the fun Peter, Liam and Sean had in the Man Cave with a pile of priceless Strawberry studio tapes! There are some really rare treats here, including four 1979 …
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Here’s part two of our three-part series, reliving the fun Peter, Liam and Sean had in the Man Cave with a pile of priceless Strawberry studio tapes! There are some really rare treats here, including four 1979 10cc demos for their ‘7th album’. There are also some lovely nuggets of tiny (or missing!) taped fragments that cast more light on this wonderful band’s mysterious ways… The master copies of a few hit singles are marvellous, too. You can access these wonderful audio files in 24-bit, 48k quality by subscribing here, via the shared ‘Goodies in the Pipeline' folder: https://www.podbean.com/premium-signup/qiegf-220cbb/The+Consequences+10cc+podcast Please note: we’ve deliberately interrupted some of the audio from the tapes here to discourage cheeky ‘bootlegging’, but full audio will be available from this week, and we’ll ‘release’ all of the audio files after we premiere them on the podcast. Hope that makes sense! Videos of the tapes being captured (with pristine audio) will be made available via Sean’s YouTube channel the day after the tapes are featured on the pod: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPtPyoGmdllLyIeQOIewN1wConsequences 10cc podcast 74 - The Great 10cc Alcester Bake-off #1: This is Not an Orchestra
On 20th July 2021, Sean had the pleasure of welcoming Strawberry archivist Peter Wadsworth and ‘10cc: Worst Band in the World’ author Liam Newton to his newly-refurbed Man Cave in Alcester, Warwickshire. He so …
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On 20th July 2021, Sean had the pleasure of welcoming Strawberry archivist Peter Wadsworth and ‘10cc: Worst Band in the World’ author Liam Newton to his newly-refurbed Man Cave in Alcester, Warwickshire. He so wished Paul could have been there to experience the sound that came from a dozen tapes recently obtained by Peter. These tapes were duly baked in the food dehumidifier that served us so well with the ’Natural Wonder’ tape at the tail end of last year. Honestly folks, we really believe some of these will blow your minds! We don’t want to give away too much in the blurb here, but in this first episode of ’The Great 10cc Alcester Bake-off’, we unearth two master tapes from the mid-70s that have never been heard before. The quality is incredible, and the musical content breath-taking. Sean has digitised all of the new tapes in 24-bit 48k sound quality, equivalent to BluRay, so about 50% better than CD. You can access these wonderful audio files by subscribing here, where you’ll be given access to the shared ‘Goodies in the Pipeline' folder. Our subscription/donation fee is $25 per year: https://www.podbean.com/premium-signup/qiegf-220cbb/The+Consequences+10cc+podcast Please note: we’ve deliberately interrupted some of the audio from the tapes in this podcast to try to discourage cheeky ‘bootlegging’ of less than perfect audio, but full versions of all the featured tapes will be available via the folder above from this week. We’ll ‘release’ all of the audio files after we premiere them on the podcast. Hope that makes sense! Videos of the tapes being captured (with pristine audio) will be made available via Sean’s YouTube channel the day after the tapes are featured on the pod: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPtPyoGmdllLyIeQOIewN1wConsequences 10cc podcast 73 - Swinging our Benefits in a Red Bandana
What do you think of 10cc’s most epic track? Paul, Eric and Sean pore over this monumental work in their usual forensic fashion to make up their own minds once and for all. Unconditional love, or not so? …
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What do you think of 10cc’s most epic track? Paul, Eric and Sean pore over this monumental work in their usual forensic fashion to make up their own minds once and for all. Unconditional love, or not so? Stunning musicianship and arrangement? A unique, orchestral triumph? A tour de force, made for the stage? Eric Stewart’s finest moments at the mic and on guitar? But is the song itself a slight case of mutton dressed up as lamb, with too many incoherent parts? Just the formulaic third in a series of three-part 10cc songs with a Latin break in the middle? A muscle-flexing statement of independence after Kevin and Lol's departure? Whatever 10cc fans' differing views, the three of us all have a tremendous admiration for it. And for the incredible talents of one Del Newman. We hope you enjoy the harmonic piano insights of Mr Baumgartner, the numerous audio Easter eggs, the cheeky influences we’ve spotted, and the debate over the song’s title and wordplay, which don’t seem to have translated well across the pond! Oh, and you’re all in for a bit of a surprise too, just as Eric and Paul were!Consequences 10cc podcast 72 - Beaucoup Plus Tard La Même Nuit à Paris
Bienvenue tout le monde! And a big welcome back to our New Best Friend and maestro Eric Baumgartner for what can only be described as a musical tour-de-force deep dive into 10cc’s quirky 1975 masterpiece ‘Une …
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Bienvenue tout le monde! And a big welcome back to our New Best Friend and maestro Eric Baumgartner for what can only be described as a musical tour-de-force deep dive into 10cc’s quirky 1975 masterpiece ‘Une Nuit à Paris’.
Perhaps surprisingly, two out of three of us here are less than 100% in love with this track. Is there something unsatisfying about the song itself, and is it just too harsh on the ears? All of us agree though that as a structured piece of theatre, it’s a masterwork.
Needless to say, Monsieur Baumgartner’s musical analysis and dancing fingers are dazzling again, and Sean’s hit a bit of a purple patch with some audio geekery - all just for a bit of fun! (He should get out more). Paul treats us to some fascinating and funny anecdotes direct from the band members. We guarantee that you’ll be hearing a dozen things that you’ve never known or noticed before.
In a word - which we use many times during this podcast - MAGNIFIQUE!
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