RIP ANDY WILLIAMS.
Show notes
I can't find the episode with Andy and Hana (I think it was on his own podcast that doesn't exist any more) but you can watch Andy's episode on Hardlore here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl0YeBfZH6s&list=PL3c0R7LR8d2KiJsW6OLQ0z_t9z8XjuVZe
and scroll back on your feed to find audio Downbeat episodes with Andy and Hana. Couple of legends. RIP.