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EP 42 | DEBRIEF: The Ponzi Killer Mom

October 1, 2026 · 1 h 6 min

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In this episode of The Slippery Debrief, Nancy and Scott welcome former FBI profiler Julia Cowley to dissect the mind of wannabe master criminal Natalie Cochran.

From childhood sweetheart to the "Ponzi Killer Mom," Cochran spun a web of government contracts, fake tactical gear deals, and stolen millions—before taking the ultimate step to protect her secrets. Julia Cowley breaks down the behavioral psychology behind high-stakes fraudsters, highlighting the subtle red flags and telltale signs of a scammer. Together, they explore what drives someone to escalate from financial fraud to murder, the chilling dynamics of greed and control, and how a seemingly normal life collapsed into a lethal cover-up.

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