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Why Good Undercover Cops Think Like Psychopaths

November 4, 2026 · 1 h 9 min

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For years Jason lived a double life as an undercover police officer, working inside the criminal underworld. No two jobs were the same, and the danger was always there.

The toll of that work didn’t end when he left the force. In this episode, Jason takes Gemma inside his undercover life and how it impacted his real life. He explains why he believes he’d be a better police officer now, because he understands how the job affected him.

Purchase Jason’s book Undercurrent: The Hidden Cost of Going Undercover here.

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Host & Executive Producer: Gemma Bath

Guests: Jason Somerville

Produced by Ella Maitland

Video Editor: Lisa Chen

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