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Discomfort Isn’t the Problem, Avoidance Is

March 30, 2026 · 22 min

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Let’s clear something up right away: discomfort and conflict are not the same thing.

But most of us treat them like they are, and that misunderstanding is costing us. In our relationships, in our leadership, and in the kind of world we say we want to build.

In this first episode of our discomfort series, I’m joined by Faith Clarke to break down what discomfort actually is (hint: it lives in your body), what conflict actually is (hint: it lives between people), and why so many of us are doing everything we can to avoid both.


We talk about:

  • Why your brain is so quick to label discomfort as danger
  • How power and identity shape your relationship to conflict
  • The stories you tell yourself that escalate everything
  • And why learning to stay with discomfort might be one of the most important leadership skills you can build

If you’ve ever avoided a hard conversation, over-accommodated to keep the peace, or spiraled over something small—this one’s for you.

🔑 What We Cover in This Episode:

  • The difference between discomfort (internal) and conflict (relational)
  • Why discomfort is often a somatic, body-based experience
  • How conflict arises from competing stories—not just feelings
  • The role of power, privilege, and identity in how we handle conflict
  • Why many of us were conditioned to believe conflict is “bad”
  • Fight, flight, freeze, fawn—and what they look like in real life
  • The importance of threat assessment (is this actually dangerous?)
  • How meaning-making turns small discomfort into full-blown spirals
  • Why avoiding discomfort makes everything more expensive (emotionally, mentally, physically)
  • The possibility of healthy conflict as a tool for growth and co-creation

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