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Can Sobriety and Passion for Wine Coexist? An interview with Abe Zarate

October 30, 2026 · 15 min

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Dante McDermott Catena visits The Crane Club in New York City and sits down with Abe Zarate, Wine Director and Wine Enthusiast Writer.

In the context of Sober October and over a glass of non-alcoholic Domaine EdeM Brunette, sommelier Abe explains how he found a way to thrive in the wine industry while maintaining a sober lifestyle, and explains why non-alcoholic wine is about the experience, and not about replacement. Together with Dante, Abe describes his approach to wine, his experience with guests, the importance of inclusion, and the potential of non-alcoholic wine in fine dining pairings.

From tasting criteria and quality to how offering no or low alcohol options can elevate the dining experience, Abe’s views on the changing drinking landscape are insightful and refreshing.

Dante also explores Abe’s work with Wine on Wheels, a nonprofit that supports individuals with disabilities within the hospitality community, and his perspective on zebra striping as a natural way to extend social connection at the table.


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