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Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

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Forrest Hanson is joined by clinical psychologist (and his dad) Dr. Rick Hanson and a world-class group of experts to explore the practical science of lasting well-being. Conversations focus on the key insights from psychology, science, and contemplative practice that you need to build reliable inner strengths, overcome your challenges, and get the most out of life. New episodes every Monday.

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  1. Reducing Emotional Reactivity and Finding Inner Peace with Yung Pueblo

    1 Std. 10 Min.

    Why do we keep reacting in ways we don’t want to? Forrest sits down with the meditator and poet Yung Pueblo to talk about reactivity, letting go, and what it takes to slow down enough to choose something …

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    Why do we keep reacting in ways we don’t want to? Forrest sits down with the meditator and poet Yung Pueblo to talk about reactivity, letting go, and what it takes to slow down enough to choose something different. They get into why your first reaction usually isn’t the “real you,” how to stay present with someone else’s bad mood without getting pulled into it, and how to feel your feelings without becoming them.


    Key Topics:

    00:00: Intro

    01:22: Why aren’t men as interested in personal growth content?

    05:29: Your first reaction isn't the real you

    15:57: Staying present with someone else’s bad mood

    22:47: Thoughts vs. what you feel in the body

    28:45: Feeling without becoming the feeling

    32:21: What is stress?

    38:19: Writing Journey

    43:27: Forgiveness without an apology

    49:13: Who needs to let go, and who needs to try harder

    52:48: Letting go of good attachments

    1:02:14: Recap

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  2. How to Stop Feeling Self-Conscious: Escaping the Panopticon

    49 Min.

    It's easy to run our lives through a filter of, "What does this look like as I'm doing it?" This constant self-monitoring inevitably leads to self-consciousness and anxiety. In this episode, Forrest explores …

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    It's easy to run our lives through a filter of, "What does this look like as I'm doing it?" This constant self-monitoring inevitably leads to self-consciousness and anxiety. In this episode, Forrest explores how we can break out of this “internalized panopticon." He talks about where the feeling of being watched comes from, why modern life has turned the volume up on it, how we internalize that as self-monitoring, and how we can get some freedom from it. He covers the research on meta-perception, and introduces a simple model for figuring out who actually gets a say about how you live your life.


    Key Topics:

    0:00 The panopticon

    1:32 What it feels like to be watched

    4:55 Meta-perception: the call is coming from inside the house

    8:23 Where the watcher comes from

    14:24 Why it’s louder for some people

    19:05 Context collapse

    24:29 The four rings

    29:05 How to escape

    34:56 Building a backstage

    38:20 Who will you give power to?


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  3. How to Break Relationship Patterns: Resolving Conflict and Communicating Your Needs

    1 Std. 14 Min.

    Most relationships, romantic or otherwise, tend to get stuck in predictable patterns of conflict. This episode is about how to resolve that conflict, and get things moving again. Dr. Rick and Forrest draw on …

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    Most relationships, romantic or otherwise, tend to get stuck in predictable patterns of conflict. This episode is about how to resolve that conflict, and get things moving again. Dr. Rick and Forrest draw on Rick's decades of work with couples and families to talk about getting on the same team, healthy boundaries, making clear requests, differentiation, and the pursuer-distancer dynamic. The episode closes with Forrest and his fiancée, associate therapist Elizabeth Ferreira, on fixing versus feeling, and how they worked through it in their own relationship.


    Key Topics:

    00:00: Intro

    01:30: What Rick wishes couples did differently

    09:22: How to ask for what you want

    16:36: Differentiation and family systems

    28:33: When both people are right: content vs. tone

    37:58: Why fighting can feel good

    42:09: The pursuer-distancer dynamic

    47:15: Resentment and requests about the future

    55:33: Fixing vs. feeling with Elizabeth

    1:06:59: Recap 


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  4. How to Fix Insomnia: CBT-I with Dr. Ashley Mason

    1 Std. 16 Min.

    Forrest is joined by Dr. Ashley Mason, a clinical psychologist and sleep researcher at UCSF, to discuss Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for insomnia (CBT-I). They talk about what separates insomnia from a few …

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    Forrest is joined by Dr. Ashley Mason, a clinical psychologist and sleep researcher at UCSF, to discuss Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for insomnia (CBT-I). They talk about what separates insomnia from a few rough nights, why people with insomnia sleep (on average) only a little less than everyone else but experience the night completely differently, how insomnia develops and what keeps it going, and the five pillars of CBT-I. Dr. Mason walks through what treatment looks like in practice: fixing your wake time, restricting time in bed, working with 2am thoughts, a surprisingly early caffeine cutoff, and why meditation apps in bed are a hard no. 


    About our guest: Dr. Ashley Mason is a clinical psychologist and associate professor of psychiatry at UC San Francisco, where she directs the Sleep, Eating, and Affect Lab and leads the insomnia treatment program at the UCSF Osher Center for Integrative Health. 


    Key Topics:

    00:00: Introduction

    03:43: What insomnia is, and why it’s not just about hours of sleep

    14:06: How insomnia develops

    20:40: Sleep hygiene, the five pillars of CBT-I, and caffeine 

    27:02: What treatment looks like: wake time and time in bed restriction

    35:20: Sleep anxiety, tracking, and working with 2am thoughts

    39:31: Sleep as a performance category, fear-mongering, and alcohol 

    46:00: Meditation apps, relaxation, and brain dumping

    50:34: How well CBT-I works, and using heat for sleep and depression

    1:03:26: Recap

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  5. How to Accept the Parts of Yourself You Don't Like

    1 Std. 7 Min.

    In this second episode on self-acceptance, Forrest and Dr. Rick focus on how to accept the parts of ourselves we don’t like. They explain why "just love yourself more" rarely works, walk through a four-step …

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    In this second episode on self-acceptance, Forrest and Dr. Rick focus on how to accept the parts of ourselves we don’t like. They explain why "just love yourself more" rarely works, walk through a four-step process, and talk about why acceptance gets easier when you can set boundaries with yourself. They also cover accepting the “bad” parts of who we are, how to work with the persona you've built to get through life, and self-authorship: taking a hand in who you're becoming. 


    The Healing Link: In this new six-week live online course course, Rick will teach you how to use concepts from neuroscience to repair old wounds and change some of our most ingrained patterns. Learn more at RickHanson.com/Linking, and use promo code BeingWell25 to receive a 25% discount.


    Key Topics:

    0:00: Intro

    3:31: If I accept myself, won't I get complacent?

    10:01: Why "just love yourself more" doesn't work

    14:36: Group 1: Authentic parts we don’t like

    23:51: Boundaries with your own parts, and sticking up for them

    32:07: Accepting the difficult stuff

    41:01: Own it to regulate it: mean streaks and near enemies

    45:49: Group 2: Working with the act

    54:46: Self-authorship

    1:01:02: Recap 


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  6. Self-Acceptance: How to Accept Yourself Without Giving Up on Change

    1 Std. 1 Min.

    Self-acceptance gets recommended constantly, but are we really supposed to accept the parts of ourselves we don't like? Won’t that stop us from changing? Dr. Rick and Forrest discuss what self-acceptance is …

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    Self-acceptance gets recommended constantly, but are we really supposed to accept the parts of ourselves we don't like? Won’t that stop us from changing? Dr. Rick and Forrest discuss what self-acceptance is, what it isn't, and why it’s the starting point for real change. They share the four stages of competence (and why conscious incompetence is where learning stalls), the two escape hatches people take from it, why harsh self-criticism is a form of avoidance, and Rick's three circles model of the act, the scared self, and the being. 


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    Key Topics

    0:00: Intro

    3:04: What self-acceptance is (and isn't)

    6:43: The four stages of competence

    10:59: Two bad exits: "idiot" self-acceptance and excessive self-criticism

    13:24: Critical self-acceptance: judge the behavior, not the self

    22:13: The three circles: the act, the scared self, and the ‘being’

    26:44: The two things people struggle to accept

    32:27: Should you accept the act?

    43:20: Being with, working with, and the two levels of acceptance

    51:35: Recap 


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  7. Treating Shame with Self-Compassion with Dr. Chris Germer

    1 Std. 11 Min.

    Shame is one of the hardest emotions to work with, in part because it blocks what we need most when we’re feeling shame: self-compassion. Dr. Chris Germer, co-developer of the Mindful Self-Compassion program …

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    Shame is one of the hardest emotions to work with, in part because it blocks what we need most when we’re feeling shame: self-compassion. Dr. Chris Germer, co-developer of the Mindful Self-Compassion program, joins Forrest to discuss how we can get around that trap. They talk about where shame comes from, how to recognize it when it’s hiding behind other emotions, and practical tools that help us experience less shame. 


    About our Guest: Chris Germer is a clinical psychologist, lecturer at Harvard Medical School, co-developer of the Mindful Self-Compassion program with Dr. Kristin Neff, and author of the new book Self-Compassion for Shame.


    Key Topics: 0:00: Intro: shame, hiding, and why it blocks self-compassion 2:52: What shame is and why it hides 9:45: How self-compassion changes the inner voice 13:44: The arc of working with shame 18:05: Shame as an innocent emotion 22:57: Backdraft and the wish to be loved 29:50: Self-compassion as exposure 39:43: When people really do judge you 45:33: The "shrug" 47:56: Healthy shame, toxic shame, and the parts of you 58:48: Recap

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  8. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy: What the Critics Get Right (and Wrong) w/ Dr. Ellen Hendriksen

    1 Std. 33 Min.

    Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) is the world's most researched, recommended, and criticized form of therapy. Clinical psychologist Dr. Ellen Hendriksen joins Forrest to talk about what CBT is, its history …

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    Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) is the world's most researched, recommended, and criticized form of therapy. Clinical psychologist Dr. Ellen Hendriksen joins Forrest to talk about what CBT is, its history, its strengths and weaknesses, and why it's gotten such a bad rap. They walk through the common criticisms: that it's spreadsheet therapy, that it's a form of self-gaslighting, and that it has an, er, "complex" relationship with insurance companies. They then apply the best of the CBT toolkit to Ellen's areas of expertise: self-criticism, perfectionism, procrastination, and social anxiety. 


    About our Guest: Ellen is a clinical psychologist at Boston University's Center for Anxiety and Related Disorders and the author of How to Be Yourself and her newest book, ⁠How to Be Enough: Self-Acceptance for Self-Critics and Perfectionists⁠.


    Key Topics:

    00:00: Dr. Ellen Hendricksen and what differentiates CBT

    7:54: Is CBT warm?

    10:25: The first wave: behaviorism

    19:57: The second wave: cognitive therapy and Aaron Beck

    26:18: The third wave: mindfulness driven approaches

    31:44: How the same problem would be handled by the three waves

    34:53: Issues of fit

    38:00: Critique 1: CBT is reductive

    42:30: When CBT is a poor fit: trauma, intellectualizers

    53:27: CBT for social anxiety and perfectionism

    1:01:14: The two ingredients of perfectionism 

    1:07:46: Perfectionism and procrastination 

    1:25:07: Recap


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  9. The New Science of Pain: It's Not Just Physical with Dr. Rachel Zoffness

    1 Std. 49 Min.

    Pain psychologist Dr. Rachel Zoffness joins Forrest and Dr. Rick to explore what pain is, why it can persist long after an injury has healed, and what actually helps. Rachel explains why the brain, rather than …

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    Pain psychologist Dr. Rachel Zoffness joins Forrest and Dr. Rick to explore what pain is, why it can persist long after an injury has healed, and what actually helps. Rachel explains why the brain, rather than the body part that hurts, is what constructs pain, the difference between acute and chronic pain, and the distinction between hurt (what you feel) and harm (what's damaged). They get into the biopsychosocial model, the "pain dial" that stress, sleep, mood, and social connection can turn up or down, the disappointing response rates for most pain treatments, why pain is absolutely not “just in your head,” what sham surgery and open-label placebo studies reveal about how pain works, and why the research is so hard to interpret. 


    This is not medical advice. Please do not start, change, or discontinue any medication based on this episode. All decisions should be made with your doctor.


    About our Guest: Dr. Rachel Zoffness is a pain psychologist, assistant clinical professor at the UCSF School of Medicine, and the author of Tell Me Where It Hurts. 


    Key Topics:

    0:00 Introduction

    1:42 Acute vs. chronic pain

    3:41 What is pain?

    9:20 The biopsychosocial model

    11:11 Hurt vs. harm: the tale of two nails

    19:10 The pain dial

    23:10 Nociception vs. pain

    26:46 Your pain recipe

    29:46 The "all in your head" stigma

    31:23 Central sensitization

    35:53 Pushback from pain patients

    40:42 Loneliness and pain

    46:51 Pacing

    50:48 Reducing distress vs. reducing pain

    54:26 Does anything work?

    1:00:07 What placebo actually is

    1:03:19 Acupuncture, sham surgery, and open-label placebo

    1:09:42 Why the research is such a mess

    1:14:10 Hopelessness, and trying one more thing

    1:17:46 Mindfulness and attention

    1:23:02 Advice for friends and family

    1:30:22 Recap


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  10. People Pleasing vs. Fawning: Why We Do It and How to Change

    1 Std. 13 Min.

    Dr. Rick and Forrest talk about what separates people-pleasing from the fawn response, and why those differences affect what actually helps. They trace the surprising history behind both ideas, explain each’s …

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    Dr. Rick and Forrest talk about what separates people-pleasing from the fawn response, and why those differences affect what actually helps. They trace the surprising history behind both ideas, explain each’s relationship with trauma, and answer common questions along the way. They discuss why old friendships pull you back into old patterns, when appeasement is actually the right call, how to assert your needs when people expect you to concede, and how to figure out what you want after a lifetime of tuning into everyone else. 


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    Key Topics:

    0:00: Introduction

    2:05: What’s the difference between people-pleasing and “just being nice?”

    8:50: Common signs of people-pleasing

    21:00: Where "people-pleasing" and “fawning” come from

    27:00: Pete Walker, trauma, and how the two terms got merged

    30:45: "Is the conflict causing my anxiety, or is my attachment style causing the conflict?"

    39:10: Becoming more assertive 

    47:30: How to change relationships built on the pleasing version of you

    55:15: Emotional neglect, shame, and learning what you want

    1:04:30: Recap


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  11. Depleted Mother Syndrome: Why Moms Burn Out, and How to Recover with Jan Hanson

    1 Std. 17 Min.

    Forrest is joined by his parents, psychologist Dr. Rick Hanson and nutritionist Jan Hanson, to discuss "Depleted Mother Syndrome:” the exhaustion, brain fog, and low mood so many mothers experience. They talk …

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    Forrest is joined by his parents, psychologist Dr. Rick Hanson and nutritionist Jan Hanson, to discuss "Depleted Mother Syndrome:” the exhaustion, brain fog, and low mood so many mothers experience. They talk about how Jan hit bottom in the years after Forrest and his sister were born, why the hardest stretch often comes two or more years after birth, the problem with dismissing these experiences as "just motherhood,” and how people can recover.


    Key Topics:

    00:00: Intro & welcome Jan!

    2:39: What inspired the book

    10:02: Dr. Rick’s perspective

    13:30: Depleted Mother Syndrome

    18:33: The accumulated impacts of motherhood 

    25:44: Taking care of your health as a mom

    36:40: Rick & Jan’s personal experience

    50:08: Small actions that maintain and repair a relationship

    1:04:19: What Jan would tell her younger self


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  12. How to Feel Your Feelings with Simone Saunders

    1 Std. 25 Min.

    We’ve all been told to “feel our feelings,” but what does that actually mean, and how do you do it? Forrest talks with trauma therapist Simone Saunders about how to go from knowing your patterns to being able …

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    We’ve all been told to “feel our feelings,” but what does that actually mean, and how do you do it? Forrest talks with trauma therapist Simone Saunders about how to go from knowing your patterns to being able to do something about them when things get intense. 


    They discuss what your nervous system does when it decides you're not safe, why the tools you've collected go offline in exactly the moments you need them, and how a sense of agency changes that equation. Simone walks through her three-step process for noticing a sensation, working out what it's asking for, and doing something different with it. They also talk about the functional freeze, what to do when you “don’t feel anything,” and how to relate to shame and grief.


    Key Topics:

    00:00: Intro: overthinking, cognitive bypassing, and intellectualizing

    4:42: What it means to “be in the body”

    9:46: Bottom-up approaches and trauma

    18:33: How to recognize disconnection and functional freeze

    28:38: Moving out of a dictatorship and into a partnership with your body

    34:51: How to actually feel your feelings

    46:29: The difference between emotions and feelings

    52:14: Meeting your needs

    57:40: The limit of self-understanding, frameworks, and tools 

    1:00:07: Moving into experiments, titration, and when you feel too much or not enough

    1:17:28: Recap


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  13. The Psychology of Manipulation: How to Become Manipulation Resistant

    1 Std. 10 Min.

    Dr. Rick and Forrest explore how to become more resistant to manipulation, discussing terms like gaslighting, DARVO, and love bombing. They talk about why cynicism doesn’t make you immune to manipulation, and …

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    Dr. Rick and Forrest explore how to become more resistant to manipulation, discussing terms like gaslighting, DARVO, and love bombing. They talk about why cynicism doesn’t make you immune to manipulation, and how excessive skepticism and trust can go together. They share the “handles” manipulators exploit, break down common forms of reality distortion, emotional manipulation, and situational engineering, and discuss what actually helps. 


    Key Topics:

    0:00: What is manipulation?

    6:25: Are cynical people less manipulatable?

    14:52: How can we become manipulation resistant?

    25:51: How manipulation works

    26:30: Tactic 1: Reality distortion

    33:49: Tactic 2: Emotional manipulation

    38:02: Tactic 3: Situational engineering

    40:00: Key qualities to develop

    45:17: Establishing protective systems and managing "the fuzz"

    1:02:36: Recap


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  14. What’s The Problem With Therapy Speak? August Mailbag

    1 Std. 1 Min.

    Terms like boundaries, gaslighting, triggers, trauma, and attachment are everywhere now. Dr. Rick and Forrest answer a listener question about the consequences - good and bad - of clinical language escaping the …

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    Terms like boundaries, gaslighting, triggers, trauma, and attachment are everywhere now. Dr. Rick and Forrest answer a listener question about the consequences - good and bad - of clinical language escaping the therapy room. They then answer three more questions: an introverted listener wonders about the pressure to be social, a couple wants to know how to loosen their strict scorekeeping around household tasks, and a 27-year-old wonders whether becoming a therapist means wasting the degree they already have. 


    Key Topics:

    00:00: Introduction

    1:24: Question 1: The rise, and problems, of therapy speak.

    8:15: Boundaries as a tool for control

    11:04: Epistemic injustice: who gets believed

    14:48: The ups and downs of labels.

    19:20: Question 2: Do I really need to expand my social circle if I'm happy being mostly alone?

    28:23: Question 3: How do we balance household responsibilities without scorekeeping?

    41:15: Question 4: I want to become a therapist, but I’m scared to change careers. What should I do?

    51:30: Recap


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  15. Burnout: A Practical Guide for Normal People

    1 Std. 15 Min.

    Dr. Rick and Forrest explore burnout: what it is, why it’s so common, and what people can do about it. They begin by framing burnout as largely a structural problem that individuals are forced to manage. They …

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    Dr. Rick and Forrest explore burnout: what it is, why it’s so common, and what people can do about it. They begin by framing burnout as largely a structural problem that individuals are forced to manage. They unpack the six major drivers of burnout, why some people are especially vulnerable, and how chronic stress affects the mind and body. They then turn to practical ways to recover more effectively, including psychologically detaching from work, finding more effective forms of relaxation, protecting your own self-concept, and reducing underlying vulnerabilities. Finally, they talk about how we can preserve meaning and agency when we truly can’t change our circumstances.



    Key Topics:

    00:00: Intro and burnout as a structural issue

    7:20: Six major factors of stress and what to do about them

    21:57: Mindfulness, relaxation, and recovery

    34:11: Protecting your own self-concept and job crafting

    41:46: Reduce vulnerabilities and taking care of yourself

    1:04:45: Recap


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  16. The Grieving Body: How to Heal After Loss with Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor

    1 Std. 28 Min.

    We all understand the emotional impact of grief, but its effects on the body are often overlooked. Forrest is joined by clinical psychologist and researcher Dr. Mary-Frances O’Connor to explore the physiology …

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    We all understand the emotional impact of grief, but its effects on the body are often overlooked. Forrest is joined by clinical psychologist and researcher Dr. Mary-Frances O’Connor to explore the physiology of grief. Dr. O’Connor explains how our brains and bodies organize themselves around the people we love, creating “maps” of their presence and relying on them for physical and emotional regulation. They discuss the health risks associated with bereavement, how to care for the healing body, ambiguous loss, the difference between grief and prolonged grief, and how we can gradually build a meaningful life around loss.

    About our Guest: Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor is a Professor of Clinical Psychology and Psychiatry at the University of Arizona and Director of the Grief, Loss, and Social Stress Laboratory. She is the author of two books on grief: The Grieving Brain and The Grieving Body.

    Key Topics:

    00:00: Intro

    4:42: The map that no longer exists

    12:00: Co-regulation: the attachment figure as an external pacemaker

    16:35: Physiological effects of grief

    24:53: Taking care of yourself after a loss

    36:46: Protest, despair, and meditative practices

    45:45: Prolonged grief and getting stuck in restoration

    57:31: Progressive Muscle Relaxation vs mindfulness

    1:03:00: Re-engaging with the world

    1:15:42: Recap



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  17. Healing from Parentification: When the “Gifted Child” Grows Up

    1 Std. 15 Min.

    Some kids learn early on that the way to be loved is to be useful. They take on the emotional or practical care of their parents in a process known as parentification, and today Dr. Rick and Forrest explore the …

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    Some kids learn early on that the way to be loved is to be useful. They take on the emotional or practical care of their parents in a process known as parentification, and today Dr. Rick and Forrest explore the costs of being a “gifted child.”


    They discuss the “bargain” these kids make: suppressing their authentic self in order to fulfill a role and earn love. Over time, this bargain can harden into a false self that makes it difficult for the person to connect with their true wants and needs. They then walk through four tracks that allow us to reclaim authenticity: becoming visible to yourself, building a coherent narrative, reconnecting with what you gave up, and renegotiating relationships. Topics include the paired extremes of grandiosity and depression, why so many capable adults go blank when asked what they actually want, and why understanding a pattern isn't the same as changing it.


    This episode is heavily influenced by psychologist Alice Miller’s classic book The Drama of the Gifted Child.


    Key Topics:

    0:00: Intro: what is parentification?

    9:18: Examining your own childhood

    13:18: Grandiosity and Depression

    18:37: Peer-entification, self-narratives, and adult relationships

    23:29: Emotional insight and grief

    27:09: Tracks to healing

    35:10: Track 1: Becoming more visible to yourself

    39:26: Track 2: Building a coherent narrative

    45:21: Track 3: Reparenting

    50:49: Track 4: Building a new bargain

    1:05:26: Recap


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  18. Understanding Dissociation and DID: What It's Really Like, and How People Recover w/ Dr. Milissa Kaufman and Dr. Lauren Lebois

    1 Std. 27 Min.

    Most of what people know about Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) comes from movies and short videos, and those media portrayals often have little to do with what DID is actually like. To get the real …

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    Most of what people know about Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) comes from movies and short videos, and those media portrayals often have little to do with what DID is actually like. To get the real picture, today Forrest is joined by Dr. Milissa Kaufman and Dr. Lauren Lebois, experts in dissociative disorders and trauma research. Dr. Kaufman had DID herself, went through treatment, and made a full recovery. 

    They explore the spectrum of dissociation, from everyday experiences to clinical presentations like DID, before talking about how DID develops as a childhood adaptation to trauma, the problem with the term “multiple personality disorder,” and what the brain science tells us. Milissa describes her own “inside people,” the shame and secrecy associated with DID, and the slow shift from "that wasn't me" to "that was me all along." They then cover what treatment looks like, what to actually look for in a therapist, and what recovery means.

    About our Guests: Dr. Milissa Kaufman is a trauma psychiatrist at McLean Hospital and Associate Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. Dr. Lauren Labois is a cognitive neuroscientist and Assistant Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. They are co-directors of the Dissociative Disorders and Trauma Research program at McLean Hospital.

    Check out the Trauma Continuum at Hill Center: https://traumacontinuum.org/


    Key Topics:

    0:00: Intro and Dr. Kaufman's personal experience with DID

    6:51: The spectrum of dissociation: Depersonalization, Derealization, and Dissociative Identity Disorder

    17:12: Dr. Kaufman's experience of DID

    22:58: The paradoxes and shame involved with DID

    36:46: History of skepticism around DID, and the role of modern neuroscience

    43:09: Treatment for DID and trauma-informed treatment

    1:00:43: What healing and recovery looks like

    1:10:48: Recap


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  19. From Insight to Action: How to Face the Fear You Keep Avoiding

    1 Std. 15 Min.

    Dr. Rick and Forrest continue last week’s conversation on avoidance coping, this time focusing on how to move from insight into meaningful action. They explore why self-awareness often isn’t enough to create …

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    Dr. Rick and Forrest continue last week’s conversation on avoidance coping, this time focusing on how to move from insight into meaningful action. They explore why self-awareness often isn’t enough to create change, focusing on common impediments like ambivalence, shame, and the difficulty of seeing our patterns in real time. They then unpack the practical science of change: surfacing predictions behind avoidance, testing them through right-sized experiments, and fully internalizing the outcomes. Other topics include scaffolding, state-dependent learning, the HEAL process, and what to do when the dreaded experience actually happens.


    Key Topics:

    0:00: Intro: why awareness isn't enough

    4:54: Ambivalence to change

    13:50: Other impediments to change22:00: How to want to change

    28:42: Creating predictions

    32:26: Setting up an effective experiment

    43:26: Linking new outcomes to old memories

    1:01:51: Recap


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  20. Breaking the Avoidance Loop: Why You Keep Repeating the Same Patterns

    1 Std. 7 Min.

    We all have patterns we can see clearly…and still can't seem to stop. Dr. Rick and Forrest explore how avoidance fuels these patterns, and how we can break the avoidance loop by updating our expectations and …

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    We all have patterns we can see clearly…and still can't seem to stop. Dr. Rick and Forrest explore how avoidance fuels these patterns, and how we can break the avoidance loop by updating our expectations and predictions about the future. They discuss what avoidance coping is, how the brain works as a prediction machine, why that means insight alone usually isn't enough to break a pattern, and what the current science of exposure and expectancy violation says about how change actually happens. 


    This is the first of two episodes dedicated to this topic, the second will focus on how to brave our feared experiences and go from insight to action.


    Key Topics:

    00:00: Intro: avoidance coping and mental predictions

    8:07: Five types of avoidance behaviors

    17:35: The invisible cage

    23:50: Predictive processing

    29:49: Identity and high confidence predictions

    34:30: How avoidance can perpetuate painful experiences

    40:01: Exposure and the Inhibitory Learning Model

    52:00: Answering common questions

    56:07: Recap

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  21. The Secret to Happiness: How to Feel Loved with Dr. Sonja Lyubomirsky

    1 Std. 15 Min.

    Forrest is joined by one of the world's leading happiness researchers, Dr. Sonja Lyubomirsky, to discuss the real secret to happiness: feeling loved. Dr. Lyubomirsky explains the key difference between being …

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    Forrest is joined by one of the world's leading happiness researchers, Dr. Sonja Lyubomirsky, to discuss the real secret to happiness: feeling loved. Dr. Lyubomirsky explains the key difference between being loved and feeling loved, why self-improvement (usually) isn’t the answer, and how giving love leads to getting love. They then walk through five mindsets that help people both get more love and feel more loved. Other topics include the vulnerability paradox, capitalization and the importance of enthusiasm, using the mindsets to evaluate our relationships, polyamory and non-monogamous love, and AI companions.


    You can find Sonja's diagnostic quiz at howtofeelloved.com


    About our Guest: Dr. Sonja Lyubomirsky is a Professor of Psychology at UC Riverside, and the author of a number of bestselling books including How to Feel Loved with Dr. Harry Reis. She is one of the most frequently cited well-being researchers in the world.


    Key Topics:

    0:00: Intro: connection as the key to happiness

    2:31: The difference between being loved and feeling loved

    6:58: What love is

    9:09: If only beliefs and the vulnerability paradox

    19:36: Mindsets to embrace if you're looking for more love and connection

    23:26: The relationship “sea”saw

    31:44: Five mindsets to embrace if you want to feel more loved

    51:51: AI companionship, polyamory, and MDMA

    1:08:03: Recap


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  22. How to Repair: The Key to Successful Relationships

    1 Std. 24 Min.

    Last week, Dr. Rick and Forrest discussed why healthy conflict is a vital part of strong and intimate relationships. Today, they focus on the how-to of effective repair: what it looks like, why it’s so hard …

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    Last week, Dr. Rick and Forrest discussed why healthy conflict is a vital part of strong and intimate relationships. Today, they focus on the how-to of effective repair: what it looks like, why it’s so hard, and how to do it well. Together they walk through four common patterns of conflict, offering guidance on how to interrupt the cycle, turn down the heat, and get back on the same team. They offer tools such as compassionate curiosity, affectionate humor, and taking maximum reasonable responsibility. Finally, they discuss the personal benefits of healthy conflict and repair: when we have a new experience and truly take it in, we can learn that conflict doesn’t have to lead to disconnection, disappointment, or abandonment.


    Key Topics:

    0:00: Intro and what healthy repair looks like

    5:26: Red flag: the withdrawal of caring and compassionate curiosity

    9:26: Initiating repair

    12:24: Scenario 1: The "accidental argument"

    21:10: Scenario 2: The chronic broken commitment

    40:01: Scenario 3: The missed bid

    1:01:38: Scenario 4: The “seeming” change in relationship

    1:07:11: Taking in repair

    1:16:23: Recap


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  23. Healthy Conflict: The Most Important Relationship Skill We Don’t Learn

    1 Std. 4 Min.

    Most of us are pretty bad at conflict, usually because we weren’t taught how to handle it well. But healthy conflict can be one of the best ways to deepen intimacy and trust. In this episode Dr. Rick and …

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    Most of us are pretty bad at conflict, usually because we weren’t taught how to handle it well. But healthy conflict can be one of the best ways to deepen intimacy and trust. In this episode Dr. Rick and Forrest discuss why conflict is so difficult, the models of conflict we inherit from childhood, healthy repair, what emotional flooding does to the brain and body during a fight, and the research on what actually predicts relationship success. They close with a handful of things that get mistaken for repair but aren't, including submission, thin apologies, and just solving the surface problem.


    Key Topics:

    0:00: Intro

    3:19: Repair as the biggest predictor of relationship success

    5:29: Models of conflict and where they originate from

    16:08: What is healthy repair, and why is it so hard?

    24:54: What to do about emotional flooding

    30:25: When to let things go, and when to address them

    38:36: What repair is and what it's not

    46:47: The power of authentic apologies

    57:04: Recap


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  24. The Gut-Brain Connection: Anxiety, Depression, and Wellness Fads with Dr. Trisha Pasricha

    1 Std. 5 Min.

    Forrest is joined by neurogastroenterologist Dr. Trisha Pasricha for a conversation about the gut-brain connection, including how gut health impacts our mood and mental health. Dr. Pasricha explains how the gut …

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    Forrest is joined by neurogastroenterologist Dr. Trisha Pasricha for a conversation about the gut-brain connection, including how gut health impacts our mood and mental health. Dr. Pasricha explains how the gut and the brain communicate, how early gut experiences can shape adult anxiety and depression, why GI symptoms are often misunderstood or dismissed, and what the research actually says about probiotics, leaky gut, and detoxification. They also discuss simple, evidence-based ways to improve gut health, dispelling social-media fueled myths along the way. 

    About our guest: Dr. Tricia Pasricha is a physician-scientist at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, an assistant professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School, and columnist for the Washington Post. Her new book, You've Been Pooping All Wrong, explains the connection between your gut, your brain, and your mental health.


    Key Topics:

    0:00 Intro: what's neurogastroenterology?

    5:48: Believing your patient

    9:31: The lifelong impact of childhood gut issues

    18:27: The relationship between the gut and the brain

    23:20: The tiktokification of gut health information

    30:56: Probiotics – do they help?

    34:15: The microbiome

    43:34: Advice to people with gut issues

    46:21: What about cleanses?

    55:52: Recap


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  25. Right Effort: When to Push and When to Let Go with Yung Pueblo

    1 Std. 3 Min.

    Forrest is joined by author, meditator, and friend Diego Perez, also known as Yung Pueblo, for a conversation about right effort, the balance between pushing through and letting go, and the death of nuance in …

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    Forrest is joined by author, meditator, and friend Diego Perez, also known as Yung Pueblo, for a conversation about right effort, the balance between pushing through and letting go, and the death of nuance in the age of social media. 

    They start with Diego’s experience on his recent 60-day silent meditation retreat, and what that kind of practice teaches about craving, attachment, and getting unstuck from old roles. Diego frames right effort as the middle path between forcing your life and going with the flow, and that tension leads into a conversation about social media, including the appeal of reductive advice and being told what to do. Diego closes with what he'd recommend for someone who wants some of the rewards of practice without committing to a long retreat.


    Key Topics: 

    0:00: Intro

    2:02: Diego's 60-day silent retreat

    8:17: Right Effort: balancing pursuit with letting go

    15:49: Attachment, craving, and suffering

    19:25: Diego's journey to the sensitive boy’s club

    25:19: Resistance: a sign that something is wrong or that we should push harder?

    31:07: How to stop outsourcing your decisions & find guidance within 

    42:41: The limitations of labels and therapy-speak

    52:26: Practices for those who aren't serious meditators

    55:39: Recap


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  26. Reparenting Yourself: How to Develop Emotional Maturity | Dr. Lindsay Gibson

    1 Std. 23 Min.

    Dr. Lindsay Gibson joins Forrest to explore how we can reparent ourselves, recover from emotionally immature parenting, and develop greater emotional maturity. They discuss what emotional maturity actually is …

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    Dr. Lindsay Gibson joins Forrest to explore how we can reparent ourselves, recover from emotionally immature parenting, and develop greater emotional maturity. They discuss what emotional maturity actually is, the "good enough" parent, the voices we internalize, and how adults can begin to give themselves the internal security and emotional attunement they missed in childhood. Other topics include why feeling misunderstood is so painful, the lifelong dance between connection and autonomy, and the hidden costs of authoritarian parenting.


    About our guest: Dr. Lindsay Gibson is a clinical psychologist and bestselling author of a number of books, including Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents and her new book, How to Raise an Emotionally Mature Child.


    Key Topics:

    0:00: Intro & what emotional maturity looks like

    7:45: Why our culture undervalues emotional maturity

    12:56: The “good enough” parent

    20:05: What happens to children with emotionally immature parents

    27:15: Repair in adulthood

    36:22: The importance of feeling understood

    43:40: Mirroring: why it’s important and how to get better at it

    49:07: Balancing connection and autonomy

    53:39: The appropriate level of parental authority

    1:04:34: Parenting mistakes to avoid

    1:15:29: Recap


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  27. Becoming Securely Attached (to yourself): Reparenting and Healing Insecure Attachment

    1 Std. 12 Min.

    Dr. Rick and Forrest explore how we can become securely attached to ourselves: building an internal foundation that lets us connect with others, regulate our emotions, and explore the world from that secure …

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    Dr. Rick and Forrest explore how we can become securely attached to ourselves: building an internal foundation that lets us connect with others, regulate our emotions, and explore the world from that secure base. They talk about how this is supposed to develop in childhood, why it doesn't for many people, and what we can actually do about it as adults. Topics include the research on early attachment, why so many of us arrive at adulthood with a strong inner critic and weak inner support, and four practical paths forward: creating a coherent narrative about your past, reparenting yourself, rescaling your sense of self in relation to others, and building self-trust through healthy exploration.


    Rick’s Attachment Course: Join Rick for a 5-week online course on using the research-backed HEAL method to heal insecure attachment and create new neural pathways for interacting and connecting securely. You can learn more at RickHanson.com/attachment and get 25% off with coupon code BeingWell25.


    Key Topics

    0:00: Introduction

    2:00: The research on becoming a “secure base”

    8:17: How we internalize early sources of regulation and recognition

    15:43: What happens when love is contingent

    18:44: Forming a coherent narrative

    29:14: Reparenting yourself

    42:07: Rebuilding your sense of self

    57:40: Using your secure base to explore, try, and fail

    1:09:18: Recap


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  28. Using Constraints to Improve Creativity, Focus, and Decision-Making with David Epstein

    1 Std. 18 Min.

    If you’ve ever felt paralyzed by the options in your life, you’re not alone. Today, Forrest is joined by best-selling author David Epstein to discuss how constraints can lead to greater creativity …

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    If you’ve ever felt paralyzed by the options in your life, you’re not alone. Today, Forrest is joined by best-selling author David Epstein to discuss how constraints can lead to greater creativity, generativity, and, paradoxically, freedom. They trace how intentional constraints have led to some of the most influential contributions to the world, including Mendeleev’s periodic table, Viriginia Woolf’s groundbreaking novels, and Kyrie Irving’s (potential) hall of fame career. Throughout, they focus on how we can go from seeing constraints as an obstacle to appreciating them as an asset, and then apply this principle to building more meaningful and satisfying lives. 


    About our guest: David Epstein is a renowned science journalist and the best selling author of The Sports Gene and Range. His new book, Inside the Box: How Constraints Make Us Better, comes out May 5th.


    Key Topics: 

    0:00: Why focus on constraints?

    5:21: Why constraints are good for us

    13:50: Time and attention as (productive) bottlenecks

    17:10: Why ‘flashes of genius’ are often exaggerated

    25:02: What Virginia Woolf teaches us about constraints and creativity

    29:35: How unlimited freedom undermines the scientific process

    38:29 Constraints make for better sports training

    40:23: Applying constraints to our work and relationships

    46:02: Satisficers vs maximizers, and how to become a satisficer

    48:50: Expanding our notion of constraints

    55:14: Death and impermanence; the ultimate constraints

    57:45: Will constraints help the Celtics win the NBA Championship?

    1:05:49: Recap


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  29. Recovering from BPD with Mentalization-Based Therapy with Robert Drozek

    1 Std. 38 Min.

    Have you ever had a friend not text you back, and you’re certain that they’re mad at you? This is often a disruption in the process of mentalization: the ability to recognize that our thoughts and feelings …

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    Have you ever had a friend not text you back, and you’re certain that they’re mad at you? This is often a disruption in the process of mentalization: the ability to recognize that our thoughts and feelings might not be facts. Mentalization is a process we can all struggle with, but it’s particularly important for people who have Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD).

    In this episode, Forrest is joined by psychotherapist and author Robert Drozek to discuss mentalization-based treatment (MBT) and the tools that can help us develop more flexibility and curiosity around our assumptions. Bob outlines the three common modes of mentalizing, explains how childhood experiences shape mentalization, and offers a map for building healthier ways of relating to our thoughts and feelings.

    About our Guest: Robert Drozak is a clinical social worker, the clinical director of the Mentalization-Based Treatment Clinic at McLean Hospital, and a teaching associate in the Department of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. His new book, Mentalization: Utilizing Reflection to Heal from Borderline Personality Disorder, is the first book about Mentalization-Based Treatment aimed at a general audience.

    Key Topics:

    0:00: Intro: what is mentalization?

    5:12: Ways mentalization can go wrong

    13:25: Borderline Personality Disorder as a deficit in mentalization

    22:13: How mentalization is shaped in childhood

    28:54: The alien self

    32:23: Developing an MBT formulation

    42:03: MBT in the therapy room

    54:40: Challenging your beliefs and assumptions

    1:11:21: How to get out of pretend mode

    1:21:37: Addressing problems with interoception

    1:30:00: Recap


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  30. Breaking the Habit of Overthinking: Rumination, Cognitive Bypassing, and the Insight Trap

    1 Std. 22 Min.

    Why does knowing we overthink not help us stop? Dr. Rick and Forrest discuss why rumination becomes a self-reinforcing habit, and why insight alone rarely helps. They distinguish between rumination and …

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    Why does knowing we overthink not help us stop? Dr. Rick and Forrest discuss why rumination becomes a self-reinforcing habit, and why insight alone rarely helps. They distinguish between rumination and reflection, and talk about how balancing acceptance and agency can help us go from one to the other. Forrest talks about the relationship between overthinking and feelings of disappointment and failure, and Rick shares practical ways to interrupt the cycle, shift into more concrete forms of problem-solving, and finally stop ruminating.

    Rick's Rumination Course: If rumination is a persistent issue for you, check out Rick’s five-week online course focused on practical tools for letting go of these negative thought loops. Learn more at RickHanson.com/ruminating, and use coupon code BeingWell25 to receive a 25% discount.

    Previous episodes on rumination and overthinking:

    Key Topics:

    0:00: Intro: what is rumination

    5:35: Why we ruminate

    21:06: Why rumination doesn't help us

    25:24: Moving from rumination to reflection

    31:35: Rumination as a habit

    38:40: Interrupting the rumination habit

    46:44: Radical helplessness and radical resourcefulness

    53:43: More ways to move from abstract to concrete thinking

    1:07:23: The role of mindfulness

    1:13:32: Recap

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