How to disagree better with Utah Governor Spencer Cox

Politics are more polarized than ever, and most Americans are desperate for something different. Spencer Cox, the Republican Governor of Utah, thinks the key to depolarization isn’t consensus—it’s disagreeing without contempt. In this episode, Adam and Spencer take a closer look at the deeper issues that underlie America’s political division, and Spencer shares his evidence-based approach to policymaking that puts people above parties. They also offer advice for breaking out of echo chambers and break down Spencer’s recommendations for safeguarding against the risks of AI.

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