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疲惫娇娃是一档从荧幕聊到宇宙深处的泛文化播客,用女性的声波延展对世界的参与和想象。 在一个内陷的时代,疲惫娇娃站在中国和美国的交汇点上,用女性的元视角去观察、抵抗、塑造政治和社会对流行文化的影响。我们讨论流动的时代精神、艺术、自由、未来、友谊以及一切使我们获得力量的事物。
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092 | You can see everything:看着看着又被骗了 And we fell for it anyway
【聊了什么 The What】 本期全程剧透!如果你还没看《You Can See Everything》,现在就可以先关掉,看完了一定要回来听。 如果你只是听说过Elizabeth Holmes,没有亲自被她骗过,走过路过不要错过这个千载难逢的被很多大忽悠夹着忽悠的机会!!这一期我们聊的是Nathan Fielder和Lance Oppenheim联合执导、A24出品的“打引号”纪录片《You Can See …
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【聊了什么 The What】
本期全程剧透!如果你还没看《You Can See Everything》,现在就可以先关掉,看完了一定要回来听。
如果你只是听说过Elizabeth Holmes,没有亲自被她骗过,走过路过不要错过这个千载难逢的被很多大忽悠夹着忽悠的机会!!这一期我们聊的是Nathan Fielder和Lance Oppenheim联合执导、A24出品的“打引号”纪录片《You Can See Everything》。入狱前的最后一个月,Theranos创始人Elizabeth Holmes和伴侣Billy Evans邀请摄制组住进他们在圣地亚哥的海边别墅,全天候拍摄。
从Theranos的创立、《华尔街日报》的调查、吹哨人付出的代价,以及Holmes和Sunny Balwani的关系。接着讨论看完电影后两种截然不同的解读:她是一再被亲密关系控制的受害者,还是连Nathan Fielder都骗过去的操纵大师?我们也聊了这部片子为什么成了硅谷的社交事件,Nathan Fielder的“装傻”和“自闭症辩护”,真人秀和YouTube式的reaction镜头语言,以及这部片子如何挑战了纪录片的范式。
Marked unsafe from spoilers!!! If you haven’t seen You Can See Everything yet, please come back after you watch it.
If you’ve only heard of Elizabeth Holmes and never had the pleasure of being conned by her yourself, this is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to get hustled by a whole lineup of master hustlers at once. This episode is about You Can See Everything, the “documentary” (air quotes very much intended) co-directed by Nathan Fielder and Lance Oppenheim and produced by A24. In the last month before she went to prison, Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes and her partner Billy Evans invited a film crew to move into their beachfront house in San Diego and film them around the clock.
We start with the founding of Theranos, The Wall Street Journal investigation, the price the whistleblowers paid, and Holmes’s relationship with Sunny Balwani. Then we get into the two completely different readings people come away with: is she a victim, controlled again and again by her intimate partners, or a master manipulator who managed to play even Nathan Fielder? We also talk about why the film became a Silicon Valley social event, Nathan Fielder’s “playing dumb” and the “autism defense,” the reality-TV and YouTube-style reaction camerawork, and how the film challenges the conventions of documentary.
【时间轴 The When】
00:30 剧透预警,影片梗概
06:43 回到2003年:一个斯坦福本科生、一项贴片专利和Theranos的诞生与崩塌
17:02 解读一:作为受害者的Liz,从打鸡蛋到代管推特账号
23:42 解读二:作为操控者的Liz,两个操纵大师的不同手法
27:55 两处证据:监狱探视后被改口的复述,以及那场游泳
35:25 为什么这部电影成了硅谷现象
42:52 Nathan Fielder其人:给受过教育的男性看的Mr. Beast
44:26 YouTube感:一层套一层的reaction镜头
50:05 装傻与把权力伪装成劣势的“自闭症辩护”
56:34 这部“所谓的纪录片”打破了哪些规则
1:08:26 信任的本质是什么,以及为什么一些文化评论者拒绝看这部片子
00:30 Spoiler warning and synopsis
06:43 Back to 2003: a Stanford undergrad, a patch patent, and the rise and fall of Theranos
17:02 Reading #1: Liz as victim, from beating eggs to her husband running her Twitter account
23:42 Reading #2: Liz as manipulator, and two master manipulators with different methods
27:55 Two pieces of evidence: a retelling that changed after the prison visit, and that swim
35:25 Why this film became a Silicon Valley phenomenon
42:52 Who is Nathan Fielder: MrBeast for educated men
44:26 The YouTube feel: reaction shots stacked on reaction shots
50:05 Playing dumb, and the “autism defense” that disguises power as disadvantage
56:34 Which rules this “so-called documentary” breaks
1:08:26 What trust really rests on, and why some cultural critics are refusing to watch this film
【拓展链接 The Links】
- John Carreyrou, Hot Startup Theranos Has Struggled With Its Blood-Test Technology (WSJ, 2015):
- Hard Fork: Why Nathan Fielder's ‘You Can See Everything’ Left Us Reeling
- All-In Podcast(Billy Evans那一期)
- Culture Study - https://www.patreon.com/CultureStudy/posts/did-you-think-i-173106002
【疲惫红书 CyberRed】
除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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091 | 绝望写手还是绝美忘年恋我自有判断 Hacks: When Your Work Wife Takes Over Your Life
【聊了什么The What】 这一期小蓝和一芳请来友台「大波福娃」的酸酸和小苕,一起聊 HBO Max 黑色喜剧《绝望写手 Hacks》:一部从 2021 年播到今年 6 月大结局、拿下 14 座艾美奖的剧集。故事讲的是拉斯维加斯驻场的过气传奇喜剧女演员 Deborah Vance,和一个被行业封杀的 25 岁新人写手 Ava …
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【聊了什么The What】
这一期小蓝和一芳请来友台「大波福娃」的酸酸和小苕,一起聊 HBO Max 黑色喜剧《绝望写手 Hacks》:一部从 2021 年播到今年 6 月大结局、拿下 14 座艾美奖的剧集。故事讲的是拉斯维加斯驻场的过气传奇喜剧女演员 Deborah Vance,和一个被行业封杀的 25 岁新人写手 Ava Daniels,如何从针锋相对到成为彼此的创作搭档、伴侣和挚友。我们四个女的从追剧节奏聊起,一路谈到脱口秀创作的真实体验、女性做喜剧要付出的代价、Deborah 与 Ava 之间说不清的关系(老板员工?母女?浪漫爱?),最后落到全剧真正想问的问题:一个创作者要如何被这个世界记住。
This episode Izzy and Yifang brought on Suan and Shao from our sister show DatBeauvoir to talk about the HBO Max dark comedy Hacks, which ran from 2021 to its finale this past June and picked up 14 Emmys along the way. The show follows Deborah Vance, a washed-up legendary comedian doing a residency in Las Vegas, and Ava Daniels, a 25-year-old writer who's been blacklisted by the industry, and how they go from sworn enemies to creative partners, life partners, and each other's closest confidantes. The four of us talk about everything from our binge-watching habits to what it's really like to write stand-up (Suan and Shao both have brilliant sets,) what women in comedy have to sacrifice, and the relationship between Deborah and Ava that defies easy labels (boss and employee? mother and daughter? something closer to romance?) and finally landing on the question the whole show is really asking: how does a creator get remembered by the world?
【本期嘉宾 Our guests:】
- 小苕 (it/its):一个擅长端盘子的骄傲土豆
- 酸酸(she/her):一包先酸后甜的绿色彩虹糖
- Shao (it/its): A potato with Chinese characteristics. Can’t be fried or smashed.
- Suan (she/her): A bag of zesty green Skittles with the sweetest aftertaste.
【时间轴 The When】
00:58 《Hacks》剧集背景:HBO Max 黑色喜剧
02:47 我们是怎么看剧的——从两周到"五天速通"
04:00 五季剧情回顾:从相识、写专场,到深夜秀风波、诉讼边缘、最终和解
06:49 酸酸和小苕自己的创作过程与真实经历的对照
08:15 剧中喜剧表演是否真的好笑?拆解 Deborah 的经典段子 "fire joke"
14:25 Deborah 与 Ava 的关系:年龄差、阶级错位、政治立场分歧
19:16 全网嗑 CP:Deborah Ava关系与传统言情剧叙事的相似之处
21:00 母女关系的影子
27:05 女性做喜剧要付出什么代价以及痛苦如何转化成作品
33:51 为什么痛苦的段子能让人笑出来:真实与才华的关系
41:00 Hacks创作缘起:三位主创的采风故事,Hannah Einbinder怎么可能不是Ava本娃?
42:54 配角线:Jimmy、Kayla、Robbie 与好莱坞旧秩序的更迭
51:59 Deborah 的谷底重生、MSG座无虚席的梦想和反抗
58:00 Deborah 为什么拒绝把段子授权给 AI 公司
1:00:00 大结局:短暂的人生与不朽的艺术
1:03:00 场外花絮:Jean Smart 和剧中人物的相似艺术人生
00:58 Background on Hacks: an HBO Max dark comedy
02:47 How we each watched the show — from two weeks to a five-day binge
04:00 Recapping all five seasons: from their first meeting and writing the special, to the late-night show fallout, the near-lawsuit, and the eventual reconciliation
06:49 酸酸 and 小苕 on how their own creative process compares to the show's
08:15 Is the stand-up in the show actually funny? Breaking down Deborah's signature "fire joke"
14:25 Deborah and Ava's relationship: the age gap, the class mismatch, the political divide
19:16 The internet's shipping obsession — how it echoes traditional romance-drama beats
21:00 Shades of a mother-daughter dynamic
27:05 What women in comedy have to give up, and how pain gets turned into material
33:51 Why painful jokes can still make us laugh: authenticity vs. talent
41:00 The origins of Hacks: the creators' research process, and how Hannah Einbinder could not have been anyone but Ava
42:54 The supporting cast — Jimmy, Kayla, Robbie — and the changing of the guard in old Hollywood
51:59 Deborah's comeback from rock bottom, the dream of a sold-out MSG show, and her refusal to give up
58:00 Why Deborah turns down licensing her material to an AI company
1:00:00 The finale: a short life, an immortal art
1:03:00 Behind the scenes: the parallels between Jean Smart's own career and her character's
【拓展链接 The Links】
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090|夏末氛围检查:大脑空空,只剩看球 2026 Summer Sports Vibe Check
【聊了什么The What】 四个人的大脑里只剩下三件事:尼克斯夺冠、世界杯,以及成年人死不要脸非要过的暑假。 这期依旧没有大纲、没有知识、没有准备,只有氛围。 Only three things left in our four smooth brains: the Knicks winning it all, the World Cup, and the summer break four grown …
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【聊了什么The What】
四个人的大脑里只剩下三件事:尼克斯夺冠、世界杯,以及成年人死不要脸非要过的暑假。
这期依旧没有大纲、没有知识、没有准备,只有氛围。
Only three things left in our four smooth brains: the Knicks winning it all, the World Cup, and the summer break four grown adults shamelessly insisted on taking.
Still no outline, no knowledge, no prep, vibes only.
【时间轴 The When】
00:17 开场:这期一毛钱大纲都没有,vibe check 的核心就是没有核心
03:13 尼克斯夺冠:纽约漫长的冬天终于结束了
12:31 纽约的亲儿子和亲女儿,Spike Lee 的场边人生
17:54 世界杯:中国队没进,于是我自由了
34:16 外行提问:守门员为什么跑出来?任意球时谁躺在地上?
39:56 世界杯里的移民美国:移民社区、办公室的两台电视、两国小吃,和破防的同事
51:23 ESPN《30 for 30》之《Bad Boys》与罗德曼
53:38 Olivia Wilde 的黑色喜剧:四个人、一间屋子、一场摇摇欲坠的婚姻
59:05 Patrick Radden Keefe 新书《London Falling》
60:09 一部会让所有人哗哗大哭的羊侦探电影
62:59 纳博科夫《普宁》与《微暗的火》:不可靠叙述者的迷宫
00:17 Opening: not a shred of an outline this time — the whole point of a vibe check is that there is no point
03:13 The Knicks take the title: New York's long winter is finally over
12:31 New York's real son and real daughter, and Spike Lee's life at courtside
17:54 The World Cup: China didn't qualify, so I was free
34:16 Questions from the clueless: why does the goalkeeper run upfield? Who has to lie down during a free kick?
39:56 Immigrant America at the World Cup: the neighborhoods, two TVs in the office, snacks from both countries, and colleagues coming undone
51:23 ESPN's 30 for 30: Bad Boys, and the Rodman one
53:38 Olivia Wilde's black comedy: four people, one room, one marriage falling apart
59:05 Patrick Radden Keefe's new book, London Falling
60:09 The sheep-detective movie that makes absolutely everyone sob
62:59 Nabokov's Pnin and Pale Fire: a labyrinth of unreliable narrators
【拓展链接 The Links】
影视- 《The Invite》(2026)
- 《The Drama》(2026)
- 《The Sheep Detectives》(2026)
- ESPN《30 for 30》之《Bad Boys》(2014)
- ESPN《30 for 30》之《Rodman: For Better or Worse》(2019)
- Patrick Radden Keefe《London Falling》(2026) — 副标题 A Mysterious Death in a Gilded City and a Family's Search for Truth,围绕 19 岁的 Zac Brettler 之死展开。(Goodreads)
- 纳博科夫《普宁 Pnin》(1957)
- 纳博科夫《微暗的火 Pale Fire》(1962)
- Hernan Diaz《Trust》(2022)
- Anne Helen Petersen 的 newsletter《Culture Study》 — 同名播客在 culturestudypod.substack.com
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089|奥德赛:抱着必须回家的决心于是这样做了 The Odyssey and the man that really needs to go home
【聊了什么The What】 克里斯托弗·诺兰的《奥德赛》已成为2026年无可争议的文化现象,我们也从书柜的角落里把奥德赛淘了出来。这期节目我们对比了3000年前的荷马文本与2026年的好莱坞叙事——这究竟是对荷马史诗的忠实改编,还是诺兰式的现代男性忏悔录?本期《疲惫娇娃》,我们聊了聊Emily Wilson译本中那个复杂的男人如何被马特·达蒙演绎成了稳重的中年大哥,探讨了佩内洛普、喀耳刻等女性角色在诺兰镜头下如何变得 …
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【聊了什么The What】
克里斯托弗·诺兰的《奥德赛》已成为2026年无可争议的文化现象,我们也从书柜的角落里把奥德赛淘了出来。这期节目我们对比了3000年前的荷马文本与2026年的好莱坞叙事——这究竟是对荷马史诗的忠实改编,还是诺兰式的现代男性忏悔录?本期《疲惫娇娃》,我们聊了聊Emily Wilson译本中那个复杂的男人如何被马特·达蒙演绎成了稳重的中年大哥,探讨了佩内洛普、喀耳刻等女性角色在诺兰镜头下如何变得薄如纸片。为何诺兰总是执着于拍“做错事的男人”在内心博弈,而忽视了受害者应有的分量?为何马特·达蒙的脸让人想投他一票,却消解了原作中骗子英雄的油腻感?
Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey has become the undisputed cultural phenomenon of 2026, so we dug our own copy of the Odyssey out of the corner of the bookshelf. This episode compares Homer's 3,000-year-old text with Hollywood's 2026 retelling — is this a faithful adaptation of the epic, or a Nolan-style confession of modern masculinity? On this episode of 疲惫娇娃CyberPink, we talk about how the complicated man of Emily Wilson's translation became a reliable middle-aged PTSD vet, and how female characters like Penelope and Circe turn paper-thin under Nolan's lens. Why is Nolan forever fixated on the inner struggles of "men who did something wrong," while giving the victims none of the weight they deserve? And why does Matt Damon's face make you want to vote for him — while dissolving the sleazy, trickster-hero quality of the original?
【时间轴 The When】
02:23 - 《奥德赛》剧情概览:奥德修斯的长路与归乡
05:47 - 工业电影的诚意:演员在船上泡了四个月的真实质感
14:41 - 导演的作者权力:从《奥本海默》的成功到《奥德赛》的空白支票
22:22 - 作为流动的西方正典,为何翻译即创造
39:01 - 独眼巨人Polyphemus:动作奇观对叙事复杂性的牺牲
50:01 - 核心主题:宙斯法则(Xenia)与当代社会对他者的恐惧
62:35 - 麦特·达蒙的“好人脸”与奥德修斯的油腻感
69:34 - 艾略特·佩吉的角色与跨性别政治的潜文本
74:51 - 纸面化的女性群像:喀耳刻、卡吕普索与佩内洛普的改编缺憾
89:01 - 王子成长记:荷兰弟饰演的忒勒马科斯带来的日常温情
100:34 - 尾声:在台下传纸条的听众比老师的课堂更重要
02:23 — The Odyssey plot overview: Odysseus's long road home
05:47 — The sincerity of industrial filmmaking: four months of actors actually soaking on a boat
14:41 — The director as author: from the success of Oppenheimer to the blank check of The Odyssey
22:22 — The Western canon as something fluid, and why translation is creation
39:01 — Polyphemus the Cyclops: action spectacle at the cost of narrative complexity
50:01 — Core theme: the law of Zeus (xenia) and contemporary society's fear of the other
62:35 — Matt Damon's "good guy face" vs. Odysseus's sleaziness
69:34 — Elliot Page's role and the subtext of trans politics
74:51 — Flattened women: what the adaptation loses in Circe, Calypso, and Penelope
89:01 — A prince grows up: the everyday warmth Tom Holland brings to Telemachus
100:34 — Closing: the audience passing notes in the back row matters more than the teacher's lecture
【拓展链接 The Links】
- Instagram上跨性别权益倡导者@justflintisfine对奥德赛的点评
- 译者对诺兰奥德赛的批评 An Uncomplicated Man
- Elliot Page的专访 Elliot Page Is Ready for This Moment
- The Penelopiad
- Middle-Aged Matt Damon is Your Guy
- What Translator Emily Wilson Thinks of Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey’
- Why ‘The Odyssey’ Is the West’s Greatest Story
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088 | 情感价值 & 左撇子女孩:不长嘴的父母,被困住的女儿 Sentimental Value, Left-Handed Girl, and the Family Trauma Plot
【一起来读书吧 Bookclub】 《台湾漫游录》线下读书会: 8月9日,我们会在纽约中文独立书店Accent Sisters举办《台湾漫游录》线下读书会。故事讲述了1938年日本统治台湾时期,一位年轻的日本女性小说家来到岛上,希望能一路吃穿台湾,在这个过程中她爱上了自己的女性翻译,但却苦于难以克服殖民者与被殖民者之间的鸿沟。这本书今年斩获了国际布克奖,是首部获得这部奖项的华语原著作品。 …
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【一起来读书吧 Bookclub】
《台湾漫游录》线下读书会: 8月9日,我们会在纽约中文独立书店Accent Sisters举办《台湾漫游录》线下读书会。故事讲述了1938年日本统治台湾时期,一位年轻的日本女性小说家来到岛上,希望能一路吃穿台湾,在这个过程中她爱上了自己的女性翻译,但却苦于难以克服殖民者与被殖民者之间的鸿沟。这本书今年斩获了国际布克奖,是首部获得这部奖项的华语原著作品。
"Taiwan Travelogue" In-Person Book Club: On August 9th, we'll be hosting an in-person book club for Taiwan Travelogue at Accent Sisters, a Chinese-language independent bookstore in New York. The story follows a young Japanese novelist who travels to Taiwan during the Japanese colonial period in 1938, hoping to eat and dress her way across the island. Along the way, she falls in love with her female translator, but struggles to overcome the gulf between colonizer and colonized. The book won this year's International Booker Prize, making it the first Chinese-language original work to receive the award.
- Book club link: https://luma.com/yayseynm
【聊了什么The What】
这期节目,我们和友台新新人类的主播采薇把去年两部大火的关于家庭创伤的电影——《情感价值》和左撇子女孩。一部是台北夜市里五光十色的单亲家庭故事,一部是奥斯陆老宅里安静流淌的父女和解。表面上文化背景毫不相干,但其实在讲同一件事:房子如何变成家族秘密的容器,孩子如何在大人自己都说不清的沉默里,替上一代扛下没有被言说的创伤。
孩童视角的滤镜,是四两拨千斤的巧思,还是对真实伤害的一次美化和逃避?一个从未说出"对不起"的父亲,值得被原谅吗?还是我们能给出的,只是一种不求回报的宽恕?创伤到底是应该被讲述出来,还是有些沉默本该被尊重?
In this episode, we're joined by Caiwei, our friend from Pixel Perfect, to talk about two of last year's buzziest films about family trauma: Sentimental Value and Left-Handed Girl. One is a single-mother story set amid the neon chaos of a Taipei night market; the other is a quiet, slow-burning father-daughter reconciliation unfolding inside an old house in Oslo. On the surface, the cultural backdrops couldn't be more different, but underneath, both films are doing the same thing: turning a house into a vessel for family secrets, and asking how children end up carrying the unspoken trauma of the generation before them, inherited through silences the adults themselves can't put into words.
Is the child's-eye filter a clever, light-touch device, or is it a way of prettifying and dodging real harm? Does a father who never says "I'm sorry" deserve to be forgiven — or is the most we can offer him a kind of grace that asks for nothing in return? And should trauma be spoken aloud at all, or is some silence owed its own respect?
【时间轴 The When】
03:50 - 《左撇子女孩》剧情简介:台北夜市里破碎的三代女性
26:25 - 两片中的孩子:以静 vs Eric,谁在拯救谁
31:30 - 母亲与姐姐角色的"男性意淫"式书写
45:43 - 父亲是"Art Monster":唯一的爱的管道是作品
56:28 - 挪威二战历史、祖母之死与集体沉默
63:16 - Elle Fanning与美国:天真的旁观者,以及一把"骗人"的IKEA椅子
73:29 - Catherine Liu的"创伤文化"理论:好莱坞的同理心剧场
77:14 - 宽恕与原谅的区别:Nora 和 Agnes 的成长弧光
89:15 - 一部关于电影、表演与创伤消费的电影
03:50 - Left-Handed Girl plot rundown: three generations of women coming apart in a Taipei night market
26:25 - The kids in both films: Yijing vs. Eric — who's actually saving whom
31:30 - The mother and older sister as "male-gaze fantasy" — how their characters are written
45:43 - The father as "Art Monster": art as his only channel for love
56:28 - Norway's WWII history, the grandmother's death, and a collective silence
63:16 - Elle Fanning and America: the innocent bystander, plus one very deceptive IKEA chair
73:29 - Catherine Liu's "trauma culture" theory: Hollywood's theater of empathy
77:14 - Grace vs. forgiveness: the arcs of Nora and Agnes
89:15 - A film about filmmaking, performance, and the consumption of trauma
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087 | Sameroom播客节特辑:2026流行文化Vibe Check 2026 Vibecession Vibecheck
【一起来读书吧 Bookclub】 我们最近会举办两个读书会活动! 《台湾漫游录》线下读书会: 8月9日,我们会在纽约中文独立书店Accent Sisters举办《台湾漫游录》线下读书会。故事讲述了1938年日本统治台湾时期,一位年轻的日本女性小说家来到岛上,希望能一路吃穿台湾,在这个过程中她爱上了自己的女性翻译,但却苦于难以克服殖民者与被殖民者之间的鸿沟。这本书今年斩获了国际布克奖,是首部获得这部奖项的华语原著作品。 …
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【一起来读书吧 Bookclub】
我们最近会举办两个读书会活动!
《台湾漫游录》线下读书会: 8月9日,我们会在纽约中文独立书店Accent Sisters举办《台湾漫游录》线下读书会。故事讲述了1938年日本统治台湾时期,一位年轻的日本女性小说家来到岛上,希望能一路吃穿台湾,在这个过程中她爱上了自己的女性翻译,但却苦于难以克服殖民者与被殖民者之间的鸿沟。这本书今年斩获了国际布克奖,是首部获得这部奖项的华语原著作品。
Apple in China 线上读书会: 7月24日,我们想和大家一起线上共读Patrick McGee 的热销作品 Apple in China。这本书细致讲述了苹果如何在中国建立起现代史上最复杂、最高效的制造与供应链体系之一,也讲述了中国如何成为世界上最有价值公司的关键支柱。作者 Patrick McGee 将在活动最后 30 分钟加入我们,回答大家的问题;问答部分使用英文。
We have two book club events coming up soon!
"Taiwan Travelogue" In-Person Book Club: On August 9th, we'll be hosting an in-person book club for Taiwan Travelogue at Accent Sisters, a Chinese-language independent bookstore in New York. The story follows a young Japanese novelist who travels to Taiwan during the Japanese colonial period in 1938, hoping to eat and dress her way across the island. Along the way, she falls in love with her female translator, but struggles to overcome the gulf between colonizer and colonized. The book won this year's International Booker Prize, making it the first Chinese-language original work to receive the award.
- Book club link: https://luma.com/yayseynm
On July 24th, we’ll be reading Patrick McGee’s bestselling book Apple in China together online. The book offers a detailed account of how Apple built one of the most complex and efficient manufacturing and supply chain systems in modern history in China. It also tells the story of how China became a crucial pillar of the world’s most valuable company. Author Patrick McGee will join us for the final 30 minutes of the event to answer questions. The Q&A session will be conducted in English.
- Book club link: https://luma.com/buwyzrkk
【聊了什么The What】
这是一场线下录制内容!
最近,小杨参加了Same Room纽约播客节,和友台新新人类的主播采薇、残言片语的主播Mercy和喜剧播客唠点扭腰磕的主播Rachel以匮乏时代的流行文化为主题,聊了一期2026流行文化小盘点。
本来有大纲来着,但是四个女的全部失控。录制过程十分快乐,希望你也能听得开心!
This is an in-person recorded episode! Xiao Yang recently attended the Same Room New York Podcast Festival and sat down with hosts from three sister podcasts — Cai Wei from "New New Humans," Mercy from "Fragments of Remaining Words" (残言片语), and Rachel from the comedy podcast "Nagging Points, Twisting Waists" (唠点扭腰磕) — for a conversation about pop culture in a 2026 vibecession. We did have an agenda but that went out of the window - but we had fun, and hope you do too.
【时间轴 The When】
00:00 - 开场:7月及8月线上线下读书会报名指南
01:21 - 播客节现场:四位女性主播的聚首
05:30 - 细聊郑智化轮椅风波:为什么我们难以讨论少数群体的权利
11:29 - TradWife 与利己主义:解析当代女性面对经济下行的心理补偿
18:22 - 文化口红指数:为什么网络上教人“拿结果”的博主大行其道
29:00 - 记者 vs 博主:主流媒体的娱乐化趋势与事实查证的消失
38:45 - 寻找真相的困境:在信息爆炸中感到匮乏的希望
41:25 - 迪拜巧克力走红背后:从视觉与听觉冲击到味觉的割裂
46:09 - 茉莉奶白商战纪实:中国速度与抽象美学在曼哈顿的结合
60:22 - 争议性讨论:关于网红“夏美”与性工作者的可见度困境
67:11 - 拒绝碎片化:如何通过“笨手机”和无聊感重获个人Voice重新注意力对抗无聊
00:00 – Intro: sign-up guide for July and August online/offline book club sessions
01:21 – At the podcast festival: four female hosts come together
05:30 – A close look at the Zheng Zhihua wheelchair controversy: why it's so hard to discuss minority rights
11:29 – Tradwives and self-interest: unpacking the psychological compensation contemporary women seek amid economic downturn
18:22 – The "cultural lipstick index": why influencers teaching people to "get results" are thriving online
29:00 – Journalists vs. influencers: mainstream media's drift toward entertainment and the disappearance of fact-checking
38:45 – The struggle to find truth: feeling a scarcity of hope amid an explosion of information
41:25 – Behind the Dubai chocolate craze: from visual and auditory impact to a disconnect in taste
46:09 – A true account of the Molly Tea (茉莉奶白) price war: Chinese speed and abstract aesthetics colliding in Manhattan
60:22 – A controversial discussion: influencer "Xia Mei" (夏美) and the visibility struggles of sex workers
67:11 – Rejecting fragmentation: reclaiming personal voice and attention through "dumbphones" and embracing boredom
【疲惫红书 CyberRed】
除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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086 | 匹兹堡医护前线:在坑底俯瞰失灵的美国医疗与不灭的人性 How The Pitt captured the failure of American Healthcare in 2026
【一起来读书吧 Bookclub】 7月24日,我们想和大家一起线上共读Patrick McGee 的热销作品 Apple in China。 这本书细致讲述了苹果如何在中国建立起现代史上最复杂、最高效的制造与供应链体系之一,也讲述了中国如何成为世界上最有价值公司的关键支柱。 作者 Patrick McGee 将在活动最后 30 分钟加入我们,回答大家的问题;问答部分使用英文。 …
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【一起来读书吧 Bookclub】
7月24日,我们想和大家一起线上共读Patrick McGee 的热销作品 Apple in China。
这本书细致讲述了苹果如何在中国建立起现代史上最复杂、最高效的制造与供应链体系之一,也讲述了中国如何成为世界上最有价值公司的关键支柱。
作者 Patrick McGee 将在活动最后 30 分钟加入我们,回答大家的问题;问答部分使用英文。
On July 24th, we’ll be reading Patrick McGee’s bestselling book Apple in China together online.
The book offers a detailed account of how Apple built one of the most complex and efficient manufacturing and supply chain systems in modern history in China. It also tells the story of how China became a crucial pillar of the world’s most valuable company.
Author Patrick McGee will join us for the final 30 minutes of the event to answer questions. The Q&A session will be conducted in English.
- Book club link: https://luma.com/buwyzrkk
【聊了什么The What】
本期节目,我们和老朋友Nancy一起深度剖析HBO高口碑偶像群像剧《The Pitt》(匹兹堡医院前线)。作为一部医疗剧,这部剧像继承之战一样,成了了解当下美国最重要的文本之一。从为了获得保险而选择失能的糖尿病父亲,到潜伏在急诊室门外的移民局(ICE)探员,我们聊聊那个被称为"坑底"的急诊室如何成为社会最后的防线。
当黑客攻击让全院电子病历停摆,医疗系统回归最原始的纸笔沟通,这究竟是技术的倒退还是人性的回归?我们借此深入探讨美国医疗系统的底层逻辑:为什么效率提升了,医生却更累了?为何这一季变得更“不好看”了?当意义感在日复一日的文书工作中磨损,我们该如何自我救赎?
In this episode, we’re joined by our old friend Nancy for an in-depth discussion of HBO’s critically acclaimed ensemble drama The Pitt. As a medical drama, the show has become, much like Succession, one of the most important texts for understanding contemporary America. From a diabetic father who chooses disability in order to obtain insurance, to ICE agents lurking outside the emergency room, we discuss how the ER becomes society’s last line of defense.
When a cyberattack shuts down the hospital’s electronic medical records system and forces the medical system back to the most primitive form of communication — pen and paper — is this a technological regression, or a return to humanity? From there, we dig into the underlying logic of the American healthcare system: Why are doctors more exhausted even as efficiency improves? Why has this season become “less entertaining”? And when a sense of meaning is worn down by the daily grind of paperwork, how can we save ourselves?
【时间轴 The When】
00:00 - 背景:诺亚·怀尔与《ER》后的跨时代野心
10:28 - 群像之光:从自闭症医生到按时下班的争议实习生
34:26 - 从糖尿病父亲的悲剧聊聊美国医疗系统是为什么这么差
43:21 - 主演在国会山推动保护医护人员法案
51:31 - 意义感的磨损:第二季为何由爽剧转向压抑?
59:43 - 场外争议:少数族裔角色离场与好莱坞系统性偏见的互文
70:26 - 昂贵的电子病历:奥巴马时期的法案如何塑造了今日的冗余官僚
76:46 - AI Can Never:人类的缺陷与温情不可取代
84:23 - 夏威夷古老祷文:I love you, thank you, I forgive you, please forgive me
00:00 - Background: Noah Wyle’s cross-generational ambition after ER
10:28 - The brilliance of the ensemble: From an autistic doctor to the controversial intern who “leaves on time”
34:26 - From the tragedy of a diabetic father to why the American healthcare system is so broken
43:21 - The lead actor’s advocacy on Capitol Hill for legislation protecting healthcare workers
51:31 - The erosion of meaning: Why Season 2 shifts from a “satisfying drama” to something darker and more oppressive
59:43 - Off-screen controversy: The departure of minority characters and its connection to systemic bias in Hollywood
70:26 - Expensive electronic medical records: How Obama-era legislation shaped today’s redundant bureaucracy
76:46 - AI Can Never: Human flaws and warmth are irreplaceable
84:23 - An ancient Hawaiian prayer: I love you, thank you, I forgive you, please forgive me
【拓展链接 The Links】
- On ‘The Pitt,’ E.R. Doctors Try to Fix This Broken World
- 主演Noah Wyle和Bernie Sanders的对谈
- Noah Wyle tells Congress: Healthcare workers shouldn’t have to ‘beg for basic support’
【疲惫红书 CyberRed】
除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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085 | 七王国的骑士:当维斯特洛褪去神性,回归质朴的骑士精神 A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms: Gritty Reality of Knighthood
【聊了什么The What】 这是一期三月份聊的节目,两个月后才发出来,新剧也成了旧剧——不过!想想三月份每周追剧的日子,还是很想念维斯特洛。 本期节目,我们联合友台美轮美换,邀请林三土(土师)与王浩岚两位嘉宾,和疲惫主播阿花一起解读HBO权游新剧《七王国的骑士》。在这部“小而美”的童话中,没有了焚城的巨龙,只有阶级倒挂的邓肯与小蛋。当贫民窟骑士遇上“不该成王的王”,剧情会如何推动? …
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【聊了什么The What】
这是一期三月份聊的节目,两个月后才发出来,新剧也成了旧剧——不过!想想三月份每周追剧的日子,还是很想念维斯特洛。
本期节目,我们联合友台美轮美换,邀请林三土(土师)与王浩岚两位嘉宾,和疲惫主播阿花一起解读HBO权游新剧《七王国的骑士》。在这部“小而美”的童话中,没有了焚城的巨龙,只有阶级倒挂的邓肯与小蛋。当贫民窟骑士遇上“不该成王的王”,剧情会如何推动?
我们聊到《七王国的骑士》与《龙之家族》还有《权力的游戏》截然不同的视听质感,挖掘隐藏在草蛇灰线中的家族传承,从底层视角解构维斯特洛的统治逻辑,以及为何这种简单的道德故事在当下更有力量。这是一期硬核书粉与剧粉都不能错过的维斯特洛精英政治漫谈,涉及骑士比武、近亲结婚的疯狂血脉以及王室的“例外论”。
Note: This episode was actually recorded back in March and is only now hitting the airwaves. Our then-obsession is no longer new news, but we still miss those March days of weekly binge-watching, and we really miss the world of Westeros.
In this episode, Cyberpink teams up with our sister podcast American Roulette (美轮美换) and special guests, Lin Santu and Wang Haolan, to unpack the new HBO Game of Thrones spinoff, A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms. In this intimate, grounded tale, dragons are gone. Instead, we get the class-flipping dynamic of Dunk (Ser Duncan the Tall) and Egg (Prince Aegon V Targaryen). What happens when a slum-born hedge knight meets a prince who was never meant to rule?
We break down how this show departs from Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon, deconstruct Westerosi politics from the bottom up, and explain why this type of simple moral tale hit harder today. From knightly tourneys to royal incest and "Targaryen Exceptionalism," this is a deep dive hardcore fans won't want to miss.
【时间轴 The When】
02:06: 邓肯与小蛋:流浪汉骑士与坦格利安王子的阶级倒置友谊
05:12: 剧迷吐槽:对比《权力的游戏》烂尾与《龙之家族》的改编问题
16:19: 童话感外壳下的社会讽刺与底层视角
21:30: 英雄解构:御林铁卫的传说 vs 现实中的政治工具
26:43: 骑士文化:侍从制度、比武大赛与欧洲封建制历史原型
46:20: 比武审判,“七子审判”,“阿什福德诉桑顿案”与现实决斗法
55:26:从侍童(Page)到见习骑士(Squire)的成长礼对比中国古代身份制度与欧洲阶层区分
1:02:22 展望下一季,邓肯与布蕾妮的血缘彩蛋及未来剧集期待
02:06 Dunk and Egg: The class-inverted friendship between a slum knight and a Targaryen prince
05:12 Fan rants: Comparing the botched ending of Game of Thrones with the adaptation issues in House of the Dragon
16:19 Social satire and the grassroots perspective hidden beneath a fairy-tale exterior
21:30 Deconstructing heroes: The legends of the Kingsguard vs. their reality as political tools
26:43 Chivalric culture: The squire system, tournaments, and historical archetypes from European feudalism
46:20 Trial by combat, "Trial of Seven," Ashford v Thornton, and real-world dueling laws
55:26 The rite of passage from page to squire: Comparing ancient Chinese status systems with European social stratification
1:02:22 Looking ahead to next season: Easter eggs and expectations for future episodes
【疲惫红书 CyberRed】
除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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084 | 挽救计划:我们需要一点过时的技术乐观主义 Project Hail Mary: The Techno-Optimism We Need
【聊了什么The What】 点击疲惫娇娃专属链接购买《挽救计划》中文翻译本:https://s.click.taobao.com/TGDx25m 同样是面对太阳危机,有人选择抽签牺牲一半人口,有人选择赌上性命去相信一个异星邻居。 本期节目,我们聊了聊这部披着硬科幻外壳的暖心喜剧。为什么比起刘慈欣式的黑暗森林和牺牲叙事,Andy …
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【聊了什么The What】
点击疲惫娇娃专属链接购买《挽救计划》中文翻译本:https://s.click.taobao.com/TGDx25m
同样是面对太阳危机,有人选择抽签牺牲一半人口,有人选择赌上性命去相信一个异星邻居。
本期节目,我们聊了聊这部披着硬科幻外壳的暖心喜剧。为什么比起刘慈欣式的黑暗森林和牺牲叙事,Andy Weir这种复古的、甚至有点天真的技术乐观主义反而更让人泪流满面?节目还深入挖掘了电影与原著的观感差异:从书中惊心动魄的硬核推理,到电影中极具魅力的物理喜剧,以及那个手搓一切的claude code大蜘蛛Rocky。
What do you do when faced with a galaxy-wide astrophage crisis that threatens the center of our solar system: the sun? While some choose a lottery system that sacrifices half of humanity (hi Thanos), others stake their lives on trusting an alien neighbor.
In this episode, we dive into Project Hail Mary, a heartwarming comedy wrapped in a hard sci-fi shell. In a world that leans more towards Liu Cixin’s Dark Forest survivalism theory and narratives of forced sacrifice, why does Andy Weir’s retro—and perhaps slightly naive—technological optimism move us to tears? We break down the page-to-screen adaptation, Ryan Gosling's incredibly charismatic physical comedy, and why everyone is falling in love with Rocky, the spider-like engineer (aka your personal Claude Code) who literally hand-crafts anything and everything.
【时间轴 The When】
01:41:《挽救计划》电影概况:2026年全球热议的科幻巨作
11:29:书影对比:原著中的物理推演与电影的影视化改编
19:41:演技大赏:瑞恩·高斯林如何赋予主角人性厚度
26:34:Rocky的魅力:手搓通道、心算能力与类似中文的沟通方式
31:20:缅怀贝尔实验室:那个充满纯真与乐观的美国技术黄金时代
35:57:斯特拉特:桑德拉·惠勒如何塑造坚定的“哲人王”
42:39:为什么我们要反思“必须死掉一半人”的科幻设定
48:45:姚指挥官与卢钦卡的《Wind of Change》瞬间
54:24:反战与互信:《House of Dynamite》和黑暗森林法则的破解
58:29:博弈论死局:用利他选择破解“别人先开枪”的焦虑
01:41: Project Hail Mary Overview: The Global Sci-Fi Sensation of 2026
11:29: Page vs. Screen: Hard-Core Physics Deductions meets Cinematic Adaptation
19:41: Performance Review: How Ryan Gosling Adds Human Depth to His Character
26:34: The Charm of Rocky: Hand-Crafted Tunnels, Mental Math, and a Chinese-Style Way of Communicating
31:20: Ode to Bell Labs: The Pure and Optimistic Golden Age of American Tech
35:57: Stratt: How Sandra Hüller Shapes a Resolute "Philosopher King"
42:39: Deconstructing the Trope: Why We Must Rethink the "Half of Humanity Must Die" Sci-Fi Setup
48:45: Commander Yao and Ilyukhina’s "Wind of Change" Moment
54:24: Anti-War and Mutual Trust: Breaking the Dark Forest Law via House of Dynamite
58:29: The Game Theory Deadlock: Overcoming the "Who Shoots First" Anxiety with Altruism
【拓展链接 The Links】
点击疲惫娇娃专属链接购买《挽救计划》中文翻译本:https://s.click.taobao.com/TGDx25m
【疲惫红书 CyberRed】
除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡:
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083|Devil Wears Prada 2:在时尚和传媒的废墟上,我们还能看到美吗?Scavenging for beauty in the ruins of fashion, media, and fashion media
【聊了什么The What】 从2006年到2026年,当《Runway》杂志也成了泰坦尼克号上的浮木,只手遮天的Miranda也成了棋盘上的棋子。本期节目,我们邀请了《去现场》的杨一和《美轮美换》的小华,一同拆解这部充满争议的续集。 为什么电影中对媒体危机的“迪士尼化”描述让新闻从业者边看边气?从纸媒时代的百万富翁,到AI时代统治世界的万亿科技巨富,权力的游戏规则已然彻底改变。我们深度探讨了贝索斯式新贵对美的践踏,也 …
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【聊了什么The What】
从2006年到2026年,当《Runway》杂志也成了泰坦尼克号上的浮木,只手遮天的Miranda也成了棋盘上的棋子。本期节目,我们邀请了《去现场》的杨一和《美轮美换》的小华,一同拆解这部充满争议的续集。
为什么电影中对媒体危机的“迪士尼化”描述让新闻从业者边看边气?从纸媒时代的百万富翁,到AI时代统治世界的万亿科技巨富,权力的游戏规则已然彻底改变。我们深度探讨了贝索斯式新贵对美的践踏,也聊了聊刘玉玲角色背后所投射的“好资本家”幻象。当人类的艺术被AI的线性代数取代,我们是否还能在废墟上守住最后一点品味?
From 2006 to 2026, as Runway magazine becomes a piece of driftwood on the Titanic, and the all-powerful Miranda becomes just another piece on the chessboard. This episode, we invited Yang Yi from 去现场 and Xiaohua from American Roulette to dissect this controversial sequel together.
Why does the film's "Disneyfied" portrayal of the media crisis have journalists fuming while they watch? From the millionaires of the print era to the trillionaire tech titans dominating the AI age, the rules of the power game have fundamentally changed. We take a deep dive into how Bezos-style nouveaux riches trample over beauty, and discuss the illusion of the "good capitalist" projected through Lucy Liu's character. When human artistry is replaced by AI's linear algebra, can we still hold onto the last shred of taste amid the ruins?
【时间轴 The When】
01:16 - 剧情速递:二十年后的职场变迁
03:05 - “迪士尼式”的媒体行业的危机
15:12 - 米兰达的突破性:从“天才恶人”到对抗时代的守门人
21:51 - 新老钱的对抗:贝佐斯式对时尚与文化合法性的入侵
42:40 - 催泪瞬间:老牌艺术家的精湛演技与Lady Gaga的配乐
52:46 - 角色弧光:艾米莉从“ visionary”到“vendor”的转变
54:00 - 刘玉玲角色的原型解析:麦肯齐·斯科特与“好亿万富豪”想象
63:04 - 亚裔助理“书呆子”形象与好莱坞刻板印象辩论
78:52 - 图像叙事和电影叙事可以讲述两个完全不同的权力故事
01:16 - Plot recap: workplace transformations twenty years on
03:05 - The Disneyfied portrayal of the media industry's crisis
15:12 - Miranda's breakthrough: from "brilliant villain" to gatekeeper fighting against the times
21:51 - Old money vs. new money: the Bezos-style invasion of fashion and cultural legitimacy
42:40 - Tearjerker moments: veteran actors' masterful performances and Lady Gaga's score
52:46 - Character arc: Emily's transformation from "visionary" to "vendor"
54:00 - Decoding Lucy Liu's character: the McKenzie Scott archetype and the fantasy of the "good billionaire"
63:04 - The Asian assistant "nerd" stereotype and the Hollywood typecasting debate
78:52 - Visual storytelling and cinematic narrative can tell two completely different stories about power
【拓展链接 The Links】
- Watch: A Conversation With Anna Wintour and Her U.S. Vogue Successor, Chloe Malle
- Anna Wintour in Conversation with David Remnick
- Lauren Sánchez and Jeff Bezos Are Married! See Inside Her Final Wedding Dress Fitting
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082|巅峰对决:不好了队长他们都在搞对象 Heated Rivalry and the radical joy of sm*t
【一起来读书吧 Bookclub】 4月18日,我们想和大家一起线上共读日本作家柚木麻子的小说《黄油》。 我们希望借这次读书会,为社群创造一个空间,共同探讨:在东亚社会里,一个女人拒绝缩小自己,要付出怎样的代价?为什么女性的胃口会被视为激进与危险?我们会一起深挖:一个关于记者、命案与极致美食的故事,如何帮助我们重新审视女性气质、亲密关系,以及照料工作背后的权力结构。 …
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【一起来读书吧 Bookclub】
4月18日,我们想和大家一起线上共读日本作家柚木麻子的小说《黄油》。
我们希望借这次读书会,为社群创造一个空间,共同探讨:在东亚社会里,一个女人拒绝缩小自己,要付出怎样的代价?为什么女性的胃口会被视为激进与危险?我们会一起深挖:一个关于记者、命案与极致美食的故事,如何帮助我们重新审视女性气质、亲密关系,以及照料工作背后的权力结构。
【聊了什么The What】
在世界秩序摇摇欲坠的当下,感谢这个来自加拿大的小而美的剧组为我们端上了一份纯粹的爱。Shane 和 Ilya,这对职业赛场上的宿敌,在漫长的情感拉扯中,为我们贡献了流行文化中最珍贵的“渴望感”(Yearning)。
本期节目,我们姗姗来迟,资深竞体同人女小杨、一芳与巅学Phd Nancy激情复盘这部现象级剧集。我们聊了聊那些“没有一个浪费镜头”的拉扯,聊了聊从姓氏呼唤到本名之间那段神圣的距离,也聊了聊剧组的特殊融资模式、以及这种融资模式或许是当下好莱坞需要的。
In a moment when the world order feels like it's teetering on the edge, we're grateful to this small but beautiful Canadian production team for serving up something pure: love. Shane and Ilya — sworn rivals on the professional ice — give us, through their secret relationship and long emotional push-and-pull, one of the most precious things in pop culture right now: Yearning.
In this episode, Xiao Yang, Yifang, and Nancy passionately break down this phenomenon of a series. We talk about those intimate scenes where "not a single shot is wasted," we talk about the sacred distance between being called by your last name versus your first, and we talk about the show's unique financing model — and why that model might just be what Hollywood needs right now.
【时间轴 The When】
00:00 - 译林版《黄油》读书会报名信息与背景介绍
01:31 - 《Heated Rivalry》扫盲:职业冰球、宿敌文学与Rachel Reid 原著
08:38 - 剧中情感纠葛的细腻处理
12:40 - 特别的融资模式和制作文化
21:08 - 如何通过性描写推动角色成长与剧情
- 56:34 - 我们需要阳光且直给的酷儿故事
01:31 - Heated Rivalry 101: professional ice hockey, rivals-to-lovers literature, and Rachel Reid's source novel
08:38 - The show's nuanced handling of yearning and entanglement
12:40 - The show's special financing model and production culture
21:08 - How love scenes drive character growth and plot
56:34 - Why we need sunny, straightforward queer joy stories
【买咖啡 Please Support Us】
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081 | 2026奥斯卡:好莱坞的美式中心主义叙事还站得住脚吗? 2026 Oscars Recap
【聊了什么The What】 电影颁奖季随着奥斯卡2026的完结落下帷幕,本期疲惫娇娃一年一度又来带着大家来例行盘点奥斯卡。先从争议开始,我们讨论了《K-pop猎魔女团》获奖感言被粗暴掐断引发的亚裔“噤声”事件和流媒体如何让学院派感到“被蚕食”的恐惧。几个娃也重点解析了年度大热《一战再战》与《罪人 Sinners》:艺术家电影人PTA是如何交出一份让大众满意的答卷?Ryan …
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【聊了什么The What】
电影颁奖季随着奥斯卡2026的完结落下帷幕,本期疲惫娇娃一年一度又来带着大家来例行盘点奥斯卡。先从争议开始,我们讨论了《K-pop猎魔女团》获奖感言被粗暴掐断引发的亚裔“噤声”事件和流媒体如何让学院派感到“被蚕食”的恐惧。几个娃也重点解析了年度大热《一战再战》与《罪人 Sinners》:艺术家电影人PTA是如何交出一份让大众满意的答卷?Ryan Coogler又是如何用恐怖片外壳包裹美国南方的移民血泪?我们对比了最佳男主提名的甜茶和获奖的Michael B. Jordan的表演(如果好奇我们对于甜茶的看法,请移步隔壁百花newsletter仔细阅读),也讨论了我们喜欢的导演赵婷和贾法·帕纳西。全球秩序分崩离析的当下,好莱坞的美式中心主义叙事在还站得住脚吗?敬请收听本期节目一探究竟。
Welcome to the annual Oscars recap by your neighborhood film and pop culture critics: CyberPink. We start off with controversies: discussing the "silencing" of Asian voices after the acceptance speech for K-Pop Demon Hunters was abruptly cut short, and exploring the ongoing battle between rise of streaming giants and the traditional film industry the Academy represents. We then jump into the heavy hitters: “One Battle After Another” and “Sinners” – how did auteur Paul Thomas Anderson deliver a film that (finally) satisfied the masses? And how did Ryan Coogler use the framework of a horror film to envelop the blood, sweat, and tears of the American South’s immigrant experience?
We compare the performances of Best Actor nominee Timothée Chalamet and winner Michael B. Jordan (if you’re curious about our hot takes on Timmy “Sweet Tea”, please head over to our Baihua Newsletter for the full debrief). We also share our love for directors Chloé Zhao and Jafar Panahi. In an era where the global world order is fracturing, is there still space for an America-centric narrative in Hollywood? Tune in to this episode to find out.
【时间轴 The When】
01:39:从杨紫琼到《K-pop猎魔女团》:亚裔在奥斯卡的“闭麦”困境
08:48:《罪人Sinners》深度解析:原创剧本、吸血鬼隐喻与真实的华裔移民史
21:24:最佳男主讨论:怎样才是最佳表演,我们为什么喜欢日漫宅男Michael B. Jordan
26:54:PTA 的《一战再战》:一代大师如何拍出“合群”的佳作
37:13:电影工业焦虑:竖屏电影、影院发短信与看不进长片的下一代
38:32:国际影片《情感价值》:细腻如“北欧杨德昌”的家庭剖析
46:41:赵婷的“修仙”片场
52:56:颁奖礼遗珠:伊朗导演贾法·帕纳西的《一场意外》
54:20:好莱坞的美国中心主义:这到底是“奥运会”还是“超级碗”?
57:34:电影行业新气象:选角奖首设与女性摄影师的历史性突破
01:39: From Michelle Yeoh to “KPop Demon Hunters”: Silencing Asians at the Oscars
08:48: Deep dive into “Sinners”: original screenplay in an era of sequels, vampire metaphors, and Chinese immigration history in the south
21:24: Best actor discussion: what defines a "best performance"? And why do we adore Michael B. Jordan
26:54: PTA’s “One Battle After Another“ -- how a master auteur crafted a "crowd-pleasing" masterpiece (finally)
37:13: Film industry’s ever-growing anxiety: vertical screens, texting in theaters, and a whole generation losing the ability to watch feature-length films
38:32: International feature “Sentimental Value”: a delicate and intimate look at a family’s anatomy
46:41: On the set of Chloe Zhao: her "transcendental" filmmaking style
52:56: Awards season snub: Jafar Panahi’s “It Was Just An Accident”
54:20: Hollywood’s America-centrism: is the Oscars the "Olympics" or the "Super Bowl"?
57:34: New frontiers in film: the inaugural casting award and historical breakthroughs for female cinematographers
【拓展链接 The Links】
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除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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080 | 去圣丹斯,吃了点细糠 Our Sundance 2026 Recap
感谢金主妈妈妙界N12按摩加热护腰带的温暖赞助! 点击收获疲惫娇娃专属购买链接 【聊了什么The What】 圣丹斯这个滑雪小城不仅有皑皑白雪,还有满肚子的小米粥和最真实的独立电影。这期节目小蓝和小杨用从夯到拉这个体系点评了这次我们在圣丹斯看到的几部作品。从震撼人心的战地纪录片《美国医生》,到让苹果肌飞起的孙锡久新作《贝德福特公园》,再到德黑兰地下的女性友谊。我们会聊聊那些让人燃到不行的先行者,也会毫不留情地吐槽那些把 …
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【聊了什么The What】
圣丹斯这个滑雪小城不仅有皑皑白雪,还有满肚子的小米粥和最真实的独立电影。这期节目小蓝和小杨用从夯到拉这个体系点评了这次我们在圣丹斯看到的几部作品。从震撼人心的战地纪录片《美国医生》,到让苹果肌飞起的孙锡久新作《贝德福特公园》,再到德黑兰地下的女性友谊。我们会聊聊那些让人燃到不行的先行者,也会毫不留情地吐槽那些把苦难奇观化的雷片。
This snowy ski-town version of Sundance came with more than just white peaks — it also came with full bellies of millet porridge and some of the most unvarnished independent films around. In this episode, Xiaolan and Xiaoyang rate the films we saw at Sundance on a scale from banger to flop. From the devastating war-zone documentary American Doctor, to Bedford Park, the new Son Suk-ku film that had our cheeks lifted the entire time, to stories of female friendship in Tehran’s underground art scene — we talk about the trailblazers who left us completely fired up, and also roast, without mercy, the disasters that turn suffering into spectacle.
【时间轴 The When】
00:00 - 圣丹斯在Park City的最后一年,两个中国胃勇闯犹他
07:55 - 顶级:American Doctor(美国医生)关于加沙救援最硬核的纪录片
18:16 - 顶级 / 人上人:Bedford Park(贝德福特公园)韩裔美国人的新泽西爱情故事
26:44 - 顶级 / 人上人:The Friend’s House Is Here(朋友的房子在这里)关于伊朗女性日常生活和日常反抗的故事
32:37 - NPC:The Moment - Charli xcx对过去的Brat Summer的伪纪录片
37:52 - 顶级:Give Me the Ball! 改变网球的传奇Billie Jean King的纪录片
47:44 - NPC:Ha-Chan, Shake Your Booty(小春,屁股摇起来)老派纯粹的跨文化爱情故事
54:44 - 没看上但很想看:Josephine
56:30 - 顶级 / 人上人:Take Me Home 关于残障身份的亲密家庭故事
59:24 - 拉到家了:Burning(炎上),看完只想炎上导演
00:00 - Sundance’s last year in Park City
07:55 - Top-tier: American Doctor — hard-hitting documentary about medical relief in Gaza
18:16 - Top-tier / Elite: Bedford Park — a New Jersey Korean Americans love story and family drama
26:44 - Top-tier / Elite: The Friend’s House Is Here — t Iranian women’s everyday lives and everyday resistance
32:37 - NPC: The Moment — Charli xcx’s mockumentary of Brat Summer
37:52 - Top-tier: Give Me the Ball! — a documentary about Billie Jean King, the legend who changed tennis
47:44 - NPC: Ha-Chan, Shake Your Booty — old-school, wholehearted cross-cultural love story
54:44 - Didn’t get in, but really wanted to see it: Josephine
56:30 - Top-tier / Elite: Take Me Home — an intimate family story about disability identity
59:24 - Absolute flop: Burning — the fact that this got made???
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079 | 刘玉玲新片:优绩主义东亚家庭里,残障没有退路吗? 'Rosemead', 'Take me home', and telling stories about caregiving
【聊了什么The What】 这一期节目,我们一起聊了两部关于残障与照护的电影:刘玉玲主演的《罗丝密》(Rosemead) 与圣丹斯今年新出的口碑佳作《带我回家》(Take Me Home)。 讲述残障者的故事,很难绕过照护者的故事,也很容易陷入苦大仇深的叙事漩涡;毕竟社会给残障者的资源那么少,而在资源的匮乏中能讲出的故事常常是《罗丝密》中描绘出的毁灭性的绝路。而《带我回家》则通过一种模糊虚构与真实的即兴手段,让残障演 …
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【聊了什么The What】
这一期节目,我们一起聊了两部关于残障与照护的电影:刘玉玲主演的《罗丝密》(Rosemead) 与圣丹斯今年新出的口碑佳作《带我回家》(Take Me Home)。
讲述残障者的故事,很难绕过照护者的故事,也很容易陷入苦大仇深的叙事漩涡;毕竟社会给残障者的资源那么少,而在资源的匮乏中能讲出的故事常常是《罗丝密》中描绘出的毁灭性的绝路。而《带我回家》则通过一种模糊虚构与真实的即兴手段,让残障演员在故事中展现全新的创作方式。或许这种匮乏并不是必须的,或许优绩主义的亚裔家庭不一定要把残障视为绝路,或许电影人能给出的激进的想象能够推动我们重塑现实,毕竟生而为人我们终将是脆弱的。
In this episode we talked about two films about disability and caregiving: Rosemead, starring Lucy Liu, and Take Me Home, a critically acclaimed new Sundance film. When telling stories about disabled people, it is hard to avoid telling the stories of caregivers as well. It is also easy to fall into a heavy, tragic narrative spiral. After all, society offers so few resources to disabled people, and from within that scarcity, the kinds of stories that emerge often look like the devastating dead end portrayed in Rosemead. Take Me Home, by contrast, uses an improvisational approach that blurs fiction and reality, allowing disabled actors to reveal a wholly different creative mode within the film itself. Perhaps this scarcity is not inevitable. Perhaps, in high-achieving Asian families, disability does not have to be treated as a dead end. Perhaps the radical imagination offered by filmmakers can help us reshape reality—because as human beings, we are all ultimately fragile.
【时间轴 The When】
00:00 - 两部电影的初观感
08:11 - 《柔似蜜》:真实的悲剧还是缺乏想象力的“绝路”
19:01 - 《待我回家》中的姐姐角色:拒绝牺牲自我,寻找更长久的方案
31:01 - 《待我回家》的激进结局
36:39 - 导演 Liz Sargent 谈“激进的想象力”(Radical Imagination)
45:53 - 电影工业能够多大程度上支持残障演员
55:31 - 心理健康与精神健康在政策支持上的滞后性
59:11 - 亚裔社区的“家丑”观与优绩主义
71:14 - 人类本来就是脆弱的
00:00 – First impressions of the two films
08:11 – Rosemead: a true tragedy, or a “dead end” shaped by a failure of imagination
19:01 – The sister character in Take Me Home: refusing self-sacrifice and searching for a more sustainable path
31:01 – The radical ending of Take Me Home
36:39 – Director Liz Sargent on “radical imagination”
45:53 – To what extent the film industry can support disabled actors
55:31 – The lag in policy support for mental and psychological health
59:11 – The Asian community’s view of “family shame” and meritocracy
71:14 – Human beings are fragile to begin with'
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078 | Vibe Shift 三部曲:匮乏时代的流行文化 Popular culture in the age of scarcity
【百花新闻信 Baihua Newsletter】 百花 Baihua Newsletter 正式上线了。也希望疲惫娇娃的听众们去订阅这个新闻信。 如果你一直在听《疲惫娇娃》《美轮美换》,或者来过我们的读书会、线下活动,你其实已经在百花的世界里了。只是现在,我们想把这个世界更系统、更持续地建起来。我们想记录中文播客圈正在发生什么,记录中国互联网的公共讨论空间,也记录这一代数字原住民华语创作者如何在"平行互联网"之间生存 …
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【百花新闻信 Baihua Newsletter】
百花 Baihua Newsletter 正式上线了。也希望疲惫娇娃的听众们去订阅这个新闻信。 如果你一直在听《疲惫娇娃》《美轮美换》,或者来过我们的读书会、线下活动,你其实已经在百花的世界里了。只是现在,我们想把这个世界更系统、更持续地建起来。我们想记录中文播客圈正在发生什么,记录中国互联网的公共讨论空间,也记录这一代数字原住民华语创作者如何在"平行互联网"之间生存、创造、发声,这个新闻信是双语的,我们几个女的和其他百花成员会轮流写作。 请点击这里订阅:https://baihua.substack.com/ 如果打不开这个链接,请用以下问卷留下你的邮箱账号:https://wj.qq.com/s2/25773709/59ax/
Baihua Newsletter has officially launched. We warmly invite listeners of CyberPink to subscribe. If you’ve been listening to CyberPink or Mei Lun Mei Huan, or have joined our book clubs and offline events, you’ve already been part of the Baihua world. Now, we want to build that world in a more systematic and sustainable way. Through Baihua, we aim to document what’s happening in the Chinese-language podcast sphere, trace the evolving public discourse on the Chinese internet, and explore how a generation of digital-native Chinese creators are surviving, creating, and speaking across what we call “parallel internets.” The newsletter is bilingual. We — along with other Baihua contributors — will take turns writing. Subscribe here: https://baihua.substack.com/ If you can't open the URL above, leave your email address here: https://wj.qq.com/s2/25773709/59ax/
【聊了什么The What】
这期节目是vibe shift三部曲的最后一集——在酝酿了很久以后,我们终于找到了一个适合开启的角度——“匮乏”。这里的匮乏不仅仅指经济指标上的衰退(如好莱坞罢工、票房崩溃、生活成本危机),更指向一种集体心理状态:对美好未来的想象力丧失了。
当“信心”消失,欲望就变成了苦涩的愤怒和嘲讽。我们聊到了韩国电影中为了生存系统性谋杀竞争对手的失业男主,聊到了好莱坞自由主义叙事的全面崩塌,以及 Gen Z 为何不再相信《哈利·波特》式的英雄主义。在这样一个极化、原子化、被算法裹挟的时代,我们该如何寻找解药?答案或许在于做一些“低效”但具体的事情,比如给邻居送菜,比如慢慢地讲一个故事。
This episode is the final installment of our “Vibe Shift” trilogy. After circling the theme for a long time, we finally found the right entry point: scarcity. Scarcity here doesn’t only refer to economic downturns — Hollywood strikes, collapsing box office numbers, or the cost-of-living crisis. It points to something deeper: a collective psychological state in which the imagination of a better future has eroded.
When confidence disappears, desire curdles into resentment, sarcasm, and anger. We talk about a Korean film in which an unemployed man systemically eliminates his competitors just to survive. We discuss the collapse of Hollywood’s liberal narrative framework. We explore why Gen Z no longer believes in Harry Potter–style heroism. In an era defined by polarization, atomization, and algorithmic manipulation, how do we find an antidote? Perhaps the answer lies in doing things that feel inefficient but concrete — bringing vegetables to a neighbor, telling a story slowly and carefully.
【时间轴 The When】
00:00 什么是“匮乏感”?它不只是缺钱,而是对未来失去信心。当希望消失,欲望会转化为愤怒和犬儒。
05:30 从《无路可逃》和《爱丁顿》说起。当资源紧缩,他人变成路障。传统“供养者”男性叙事在现代系统中崩塌。
12:11 自由主义叙事开始失效。观众厌倦好莱坞的说教,《The Studio》揭示的是文化工业的瘫痪与精英脱节。
23:36 代际断裂。为什么 Gen Z 对《哈利波特》那种九十年代式的乐观主义越来越无感,Gen Z 成长于极化与停滞之中,不再相信善恶分明的世界。
36:00 我们开始怀旧:布拉德·皮特和《F1》是一个典型例子,电影构建了一个没有政治争议、只有输赢规则的世界。传统男性气概重新被召唤。你爹还是你爹。这种叙事满足了人们对确定性的渴望,也提供了一种逃避复杂现实的方式。
47:50 性别角色回潮。《爱情盲选》和 tradwife 现象反映了在极化时代中对安全感的表演式追寻。
55: 50 AI 并未带来连接,反而放大分裂,我们开始怀疑“科技救世”的神话。《神奇四侠》中的技术乐观主义不复存在。
1:23:30 西方社会 生活成本危机加剧匮乏感。算法利用焦虑制造争吵,社交网络赛博巴尔干化是什么?
1:35:30 结语 拒绝犬儒,从具体行动开始。真实的连接或许是对抗虚无的唯一方式。
00:00 What is “scarcity”? It’s not just financial lack, but a loss of faith in the future. When hope disappears, desire turns into anger and cynicism.
05:30 We begin with No Other Choice and Eddington. As resources shrink, other people become obstacles. The traditional male “provider” narrative collapses within the modern system.
12:11 The liberal narrative loses its grip. Audiences are exhausted by Hollywood moralizing. The Studio exposes paralysis within the cultural industry and its detachment from ordinary life.
23:36 A generational rupture. Why Gen Z no longer connects with 1990s optimism like Harry Potter. Raised amid polarization and stagnation, they no longer believe in a morally clear world.
36:00 We turn to nostalgia. Brad Pitt and F1 serve as a key example. The film constructs a world without political conflict — only winners and losers. Traditional masculinity is revived. “Daddy is still daddy.” It satisfies a longing for certainty and offers escape from complexity.
47:50 The return of gender roles. Love Is Blind and the tradwife phenomenon reflect a performative search for safety in a polarized age.
55:50 AI did not bring connection; it amplified division. We begin to question the myth of technological salvation. The technological optimism of Fantastic Four no longer holds.
1:23:30 The Western cost-of-living crisis deepens scarcity. Algorithms exploit anxiety and manufacture endless conflict. What does cyber-Balkanization of social networks mean?
1:35:30 Conclusion. Reject cynicism and begin with concrete action. Real human connection may be the only antidote to nihilism.
【拓展链接 The Links】
阿花: Beyond the Machine: Creative agency in the AI landscape
Personal canon by Celine Nguyen
Remaking Liberalism: The Past, Present, and Future of Freedom by Daron Acemoglu and Simon Johnson
配图:从1998年开始的价格变化
影视/剧集: 电影《无路可逃》(No Other Choice / The AX) 电影《爱丁顿》(Eddington) 电影《F1》 电影《神奇四侠》(Fantastic 4) 剧集《The Studio》 真人秀《爱情盲选》(Love is Blind) 剧集《Abbott Elementary》 书籍/人物/概念: Daron Acemoglu (经济学家) Hanif Abdurraqib (作家/诗人) Tradwife (传统家庭主妇风潮) Cyber-Balkanization (赛博巴尔干化) Identity Politics (身份政治)
【疲惫红书 CyberRed】
除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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077 | 冬季氛围检查:2025年度盘点之可以可以我不行了 2025 Annual Review
感谢金主妈妈Tims咖啡机! 点击专属购买链接 【聊了什么The What】 实在是不好解释,把图放在这里大家自己体会吧。 IYKYK 【时间轴 The When】 01:32 - 重大发现——12月末是星期天晚上(虽然发节目的时间已经到了一月底,请别介意) 05:43 - 年度总结框架 06:58 - 卧槽:政治极化坟墓上跳舞的Eddington 9:56 - 我操我不行了:A Simple Accident …
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感谢金主妈妈Tims咖啡机! 点击专属购买链接
【聊了什么The What】
实在是不好解释,把图放在这里大家自己体会吧。
IYKYK
【时间轴 The When】
01:32 - 重大发现——12月末是星期天晚上(虽然发节目的时间已经到了一月底,请别介意)
05:43 - 年度总结框架
06:58 - 卧槽:政治极化坟墓上跳舞的Eddington
9:56 - 我操我不行了:A Simple Accident
11:22 - 可以可以:电影Sorry Baby
15:29 - 可以可以:在西湖喝茶
22:33 - 我不行了:日语学不下去
26:15 - 我不行了:补课罗马史
35:24 - 卧槽我不行了:韩娱饭圈
40:28 - 卧槽我不行了:那不勒斯四部曲
43:46 - 卧槽可以可以:今年看过的一些非虚构
45:38 - 我操我不行了可以可以:戛纳电影节
47:38 - 我不行了可以可以:2025 年看山河故人别有风味
54:58 - 我操我不行了可以可以:Chichu Art Museum和James Turrell的艺术
66:22 - 我操我不行了可以可以:简中“反清复明”阴谋论宇宙
68:25 - 我操我不行了可以可以:西非舞
75:44 - 我操我不行了可以可以:医疗剧 The Pitt
01:32 – Major discovery: late December feels like Sunday night (even though the episode drops in late January—please don’t mind us)
05:43 – Year-end recap framework
06:58 – Holy Shit: Eddington — dancing on the grave of political polarization
09:56 – I can’t with this: A Simple Accident
11:22 – Okay okay okay: Sorry Baby
15:29 – Okay okay okay: drinking tea at West Lake
22:33 – I can’t with this: Japanese is no longer happening
26:15 – I can’t with this: crash-course on Roman history
35:24 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this: K-pop fandom culture
40:28 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this: The Neapolitan Novels (the four-book series)
43:46 – Holy Shit, okay okay okay: some nonfiction reads from this year
45:38 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: Cannes Film Festival
47:38 – I can’t with this, okay okay okay: watching Mountains May Depart in 2025 hits differently
54:58 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: Chichu Art Museum & the art of James Turrell
66:22 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: the Simplified-Chinese internet’s “Restore the Ming Dynasty” conspiracy universe
68:25 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: West African dance
75:44 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: the medical drama The Pitt
【拓展链接】
小杨
小蓝
一芳
- Strike, Labor Unions, and Resistance in the Roman Empire
- Careless People
- MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios
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076 | 「哈姆内特」:我们这一代有自己的莎士比亚 Is Hamnet Shakespeare for Millennials
【聊了什么The What】 这期节目,我们聊了新片《Hamnet》:一部改编自 Maggie O’Farrell 同名小说的故事,并聊了聊它为什么能让人哭到崩溃(或完全哭不出来但仍然狠狠爱上),聊到它那种带点神秘主义、符号化的拍法如何制造出希腊悲剧式的宣泄/净化。 我们也不可避免的想起了之前聊过的Wifedom。这是另一个文学巨擘榨干身边女性的故事吗?还是他讲述了一个超脱语境、触及人类隽永生死问题的经典悲剧?把女性与 …
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【聊了什么The What】
这期节目,我们聊了新片《Hamnet》:一部改编自 Maggie O’Farrell 同名小说的故事,并聊了聊它为什么能让人哭到崩溃(或完全哭不出来但仍然狠狠爱上),聊到它那种带点神秘主义、符号化的拍法如何制造出希腊悲剧式的宣泄/净化。
我们也不可避免的想起了之前聊过的Wifedom。这是另一个文学巨擘榨干身边女性的故事吗?还是他讲述了一个超脱语境、触及人类隽永生死问题的经典悲剧?把女性与自然、草药、预言、女巫气质连在一起,是一种温柔的赋权,还是另一种更古老的陷阱?艺术究竟是在表演痛苦,还是在替人类提供一种“活下去的解释”?归根结底,在2025年重拍莎士比亚是很需要勇气的;赵婷交出的答卷你们满意吗?
In this episode, we discuss our favorite nepo baby Chloé Zhao’s new feature film Hamnet, adapted from the novel of the same name by Maggie O’Farrell. We explore why it can make you cry uncontrollably (or not cry at all and still fall deeply in love with it), and how its mystical, symbolic filmmaking evokes a Greek tragedy-like catharsis.
It is hard not to draw comparison with Wifedom, which we’ve talked about in the past. Is this yet another story of a literary giant draining the life out of the women around him? Or is it a timeless tragedy that transcends context to speak to the eternal human questions of life and death? When women are linked with nature, herbs, prophecy, and witch-like qualities—is it a gentle form of empowerment, or an older, more insidious trap? Is art merely performing pain, or is it offering humanity a way to keep going? Ultimately, remaking Shakespeare in 2025 takes courage—did Chloé Zhao deliver?
【时间轴 The When】
00:02:22 《Hamnet》、演员阵容、TIFF 口碑
00:04:46 四个女的的初印象(以及不同的哭晕程度)
00:13:37 文学巨擘背后被隐身的女人:与《Wifedom》的文脉相通
00:21:10 除了审判隐身的丈夫,或许我们还能讲点别的故事
00:29:18 自然叙事:女性/土地的连结与争议
00:37:16 Le Guin、女巫叙事与男权结构的回声
00:48:18 “To be or not to be”:没看懂也没关系
00:59:50 结尾的半圆镜头:为什么人类要讲故事
01:06:16 “人生三苦”:理解痛苦不等于失去情感
00:02:22 Chloé Zhao’s Hamnet, cast, and TIFF reception
00:04:46 First impressions from four women (and varying levels of emotional breakdown)
00:13:37 The invisible woman behind the literary giant: connections to Wifedom
00:21:10 Beyond judging the hidden husband—maybe there are other stories we can tell
00:29:18 Nature narratives: the contested link between women and lan
00:37:16 Le Guin, witch storytelling, and echoes of patriarchy
00:48:18 “To be or not to be”: it’s okay if you don’t understand it
00:59:50 The final half-circle shot: why humans tell stories
01:06:16 The “three sufferings” of life: understanding pain doesn’t mean feeling less
【拓展链接 The Links】
- Hamnet: A Novel of the Plague
- Hamnet Book Club
- Wifedom
- The New Yorker对赵婷的采访
- Oh Brother! The Jupes Get Shakespearean
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075 | 「一战再战」:告别宏大叙事,拥抱日常英雄 Beyond Grand Narratives, Toward Everyday Heroes
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【聊了什么The What】
本期节目,我们与哲学家袁源、友台美轮美换主播Lokin一同过度解读了保罗·托马斯·安德森(Paul Thomas Anderson)很有嚼劲的新作《一战再战》。这部电影是让小杨“撇着嘴进去,真香着出来”的年度惊喜,也是袁源觉得十分“就这”的陈词滥调。我们从加缪的《反叛者》出发,探讨暴力革命的伦理困境:当“妇人之仁”成为罪行,对抽象理念的狂热是否必然以牺牲具体的人为代价?Perfidia是一个挑战观众道德底线的反英雄,还是一位被男性凝视和刻板印象所困的复杂女性?Perfidia式的、为“爽”而战的景观式革命的反面,是否是Sensei式的、根植于邻里互助的日常英雄主义?
For this episode, we invited philosopher Yuan Yuan and Lokin to join us in over-interpreting Paul Thomas Anderson’s chewy new film One Battle After Another. It’s a movie that some of us walked into with doubts and walked out of utterly charmed, while others find it to be a thoroughly “meh” bundle of clichés. Starting from Camus’s The Rebel, we dig into the ethical dilemmas of revolutionary violence: when “womanly compassion” becomes a crime, does fervor for an abstract ideal inevitably demand the sacrifice of concrete human lives? Is Perfidia a boundary-pushing anti-hero who defies our moral expectations, or a complex woman trapped within male gaze and stereotype? And if Perfidia’s spectacle-driven, pleasure-forward revolution is one end of the spectrum, is its opposite the Sensei style—an everyday heroism grounded in neighborly mutual aid?
【时间轴 The When】
00:00 电影《一战再战》剧情速览和第一印象
10:23 为何将60年代的革命美学平移到2008年让人“不买账”?
22:34 暴力革命的道德思辨:电影中的革命行动是否满足“正义的目标”、“必要性”与“相称性”?
31:33 Perfidia是刻板印象还是反英雄?
54:12 Willa打破父辈创伤的循环了吗?
58:03 “非盈利蛇头”Sensei和日常的英雄主义
67:07 对白人至上主义的辛辣讽刺
78:47 结局:这也能大团圆
00:00 Quick plot recap of One Battle After Another and our initial reactions
10:23 Why does transplanting 1960s revolutionary aesthetics into 2008 feel so unconvincing?
22:34 Moral reasoning around violent revolution: do the film’s actions satisfy “just cause,” “necessity,” and “proportionality”?
31:33 Perfidia: sexualized or anti-hero?
54:12 Does Willa break the cycle of her parents’ trauma?
58:03 The “non-profit coyote” Sensei and the quiet heroism of the everyday
67:07 A sharp satire of white supremacism
78:47 The ending: …so this counts as a happy ending?
【拓展链接 The Links】
- Liberalism in Dark Times: The Liberal Ethos in the Twentieth Century
- The Rebel: An Essay on Man in Revolt
- Vineland
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074 | KATSEYE:你有这样高速运转的K-Pop造星机器进入美国 All Eyes on KATSEYE and K-Pop's Global Expansion
【聊了什么The What】 本期节目,小蓝和小杨将自己“逼到墙角”,聊一聊让我们甘心情愿入坑的国际K-Pop女团KATSEYE。这个由六个截然不同的文化背景、肤色成员组成的团体出道曲成绩优异,而且靠hyperpop单曲“Gnarly”迅速出圈,已经成为美国炙手可热的新人偶像。她们身上那种“全校最漂亮的mean girls跟你天下第一好”的鲜活与“有病又有梗”的魅力与以往的女团相比更松弛、自由。 …
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【聊了什么The What】
本期节目,小蓝和小杨将自己“逼到墙角”,聊一聊让我们甘心情愿入坑的国际K-Pop女团KATSEYE。这个由六个截然不同的文化背景、肤色成员组成的团体出道曲成绩优异,而且靠hyperpop单曲“Gnarly”迅速出圈,已经成为美国炙手可热的新人偶像。她们身上那种“全校最漂亮的mean girls跟你天下第一好”的鲜活与“有病又有梗”的魅力与以往的女团相比更松弛、自由。 但同时,KATSEYE也代表着K-pop全球扩张战略“质变”的一个成功样本——HYBE和Geffin Records强强联手不仅是韩美资本的一场盛大联姻,更是一个将K-pop工业化造星体系移植到美国本土的庞大实验。我们跟随着出道纪录片《Popstar Academy》,见证这场巨大的“楚门秀”如何将活生生、充满棱角的女孩们锻造成精美的商品。在这套精密运作的资本逻辑下,“人”与“商品”的边界变得模糊,友谊、梦想与自我认同被撕裂,作为娱乐献祭给全球观众。从成员选拔中无法掩盖的地缘政治与种族“拼色游戏”,到闵熙珍与HYBE的冲突所揭示的平台垄断与创作者困境,我们探讨K-pop这套“反人性”却极致高效的体系在全球复制时,究竟是在输出文化,还是在输出一套更精密的规训与控制?
In this episode, Xiao Lan and Xiao Yang dive into KATSEYE, the international K-pop girl group that's completely hooked us. This six-member group debuted to chart success and broke into the mainstream with hyperpop single "Gnarly." They radiate a chaotic, meme-able charm—"the prettiest mean girls who are also ride-or-die for you"—that feels more relaxed and subversive than previous girl groups. But KATSEYE also represents K-pop's global expansion "qualitative shift." The HYBE and Geffen Records collaboration transplants K-pop's industrialized star-making system onto American soil. Their Netflix documentary Popstar Academy was a "Truman Show" forging strong personalities into polished products, where the line between "person" and "commodity" blurs. From market-driven diversity in member selection to Min Hee-jin's conflict with HYBE exposing creator struggles, we ask: is K-pop exporting culture—or a sophisticated apparatus of exploitation and control?
【时间轴 The When】
02:32 - 04:55 - KATSEYE 是个什么样的女团?
04:55 - 10:49 - Gnarly歌曲制作中加入不雅声音引发的巨大争议,行业应该如何对待未成年偶像
10:49 - 13:30 - KATSEYE成员台上和台下的反差魅力,“发疯”的Gen-Z女团来整顿韩娱了
13:30 - 18:47 - 纪录片《Popstar Academy》的“楚门秀”式选秀、K-pop严苛的训练体系如何与美国文化碰撞
18:47 - 28:31 - Manon的角色弧光与争议:不努力是偶像最大的原罪吗?
28:31 - 45:19 - 选秀的残酷本质、地缘政治与种族配额:国籍、市场等因素如何决定谁能出道
45:19 - 53:37 - HYBE x Geffen资本联姻背后的商业模式、全球扩张野心
53:37 - 59:19 - NEWJEANS 的官司里闵熙珍与HYBE的争议是创新、复制与控制权的根本矛盾
59:19 - 69:54 - K-pop的造星方法论走向世界的过程中会去芜存菁吗?
02:32 - 04:55 - Who is KATSEYE? The Korean-American entertainment powerhouse deal behind the group
04:55 - 10:49 - The "Gnarly" controversy: Why explicit sounds in the track sparked massive backlash
10:49 - 13:30 - KATSEYE's duality: How this "unhinged" Gen-Z girl group is disrupting K-pop norms
13:30 - 18:47 - Popstar Academy's reality TV manipulation and K-pop's brutal training system meets American culture
18:47 - 28:31 - Manon's journey and the backlash: Is "not trying hard enough" the ultimate idol crime?
28:31 - 45:19 - Beyond talent: How geopolitics, racial quotas, and market appeal really determine who debuts
45:19 - 53:37 - HYBE × Geffen: Unpacking the business strategy and global ambitions
53:37 - 59:19 - The NewJeans conflict: Innovation vs. imitation and the battle for creative control
59:19 - 69:54 - Can K-pop's factory system evolve as it goes global—or will it just export the same problems?
【拓展链接 The Links】
- The fued between Min Hee-Jin (NJZ) and HYBE, a timeline
- "Gnarly" MV
- KATSEYE 的综艺(Warning: 很吵)
- ”Machine Girl“
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073 | 秋季氛围检查:失去全世界,收获爱尔兰 Fall Vibe Check: Losing the World, Gaining Ireland
感谢金主妈妈妙界按摩仪!点击专属购买链接: https://mo.m.tmall.com/page/36553111?shop_id=227373533&item_id=720388007073 【聊了什么The What】 新的毫无养分的氛围检查来了——几个女的们观察世界的宏观状态之后,决定一起和大家进入秋冬季节,并且开启“安心做废物”的模式。 另外,最近互联网充斥着AI Generated …
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【聊了什么The What】
新的毫无养分的氛围检查来了——几个女的们观察世界的宏观状态之后,决定一起和大家进入秋冬季节,并且开启“安心做废物”的模式。
另外,最近互联网充斥着AI Generated Slop(AI生成的垃圾内容),鉴于这个状况不容忽视,我们人工生成了一些纯天然的垃圾内容。希望你听完依旧一点东西都没有学到!
Here comes another vibe check with zero nutritional value—after observing the world’s current macro state, a few women decided to ease into the autumn-winter season by collectively embracing the mindset of “being at peace with being a little useless.” Also, the internet is now overflowing with AI Generated Slop. In response, we couldn’t just sit back and do nothing. So, we used our actual brains to produce some organic human generated slop. Here’s to another joyful useless hour of pure vibes!
【时间轴 The When】
03:55 - 小蓝的上头:爱尔兰是好地方,一共有50个人,大家都相互认识对方
19:52 - 一芳的下头:我们如何理解Taylor Swift新专辑中的矛盾信息?霉霉你还好吗
41:16 - 小杨的上头:权志龙居然有新粉,新粉居然是我,以及爱豆和粉丝之间的关系或许应当是平等的?
48:53 - 妙界按摩仪救救我们的颈椎,请大家也用上,谢谢大家
52:03 - 花酱的上头:《暮光之城》文艺复兴,荣光归来,吸血鬼emo爱情故事如何在我们的前额叶长好以后重新归来
03:55 - Xiaolan’s high: Ireland is a great place, only 50 people live there and they all know each other
19:52 - Yifang’s low: How do we make sense of the contradictions in Taylor Swift’s new album? Taylor, are you okay?
41:16 - Xiaoyang’s high: G-Dragon, and why idols and fans should be equals
48:53 - A massager that saved our stiff necks and you should try it too
52:03 - Hana high: The Twilight Renaissance—the vampires are back; how emo vampire love stories hit differently once your prefrontal cortex is fully developed
【拓展链接 The Links】
这篇纽约客文章分析了Gossip Girl这部小说的精妙的创作
BigBang的花路
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072 | Vibe Shift 三部曲:保守女性气质的回潮 The Return of Conservative Femininity
【聊了什么The What】 在“女权疲劳”与“woke倦怠”之后,美国流行文化正在经历一场“女性气质”的回潮(Vibe Shift):保守女性气质重新流行起来。本期节目我们深入聊了姐妹会文化、MAGA美妆、还有TikTok上那些看似“非政治”的倡导健康生活的视频,是如何一步步把女性重新绑回“温柔、克制、顺从”的模子里,在无形中复活了反女性主义的观念。从阿拉巴马大学的 Bama Rush 现象到 Sydney …
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【聊了什么The What】
在“女权疲劳”与“woke倦怠”之后,美国流行文化正在经历一场“女性气质”的回潮(Vibe Shift):保守女性气质重新流行起来。本期节目我们深入聊了姐妹会文化、MAGA美妆、还有TikTok上那些看似“非政治”的倡导健康生活的视频,是如何一步步把女性重新绑回“温柔、克制、顺从”的模子里,在无形中复活了反女性主义的观念。从阿拉巴马大学的 Bama Rush 现象到 Sydney Sweeney 的“cool girl”形象,这场Vibe Shift不仅是审美的变化,更是一种政治与文化的再编码,当流行文化把政治意识形态与个人价值混为一谈,什么样的女性故事被放大,又有哪些被抹去?
As part two of our Vibe Shift Trilogy, this episode dives into the return of conservative femininity in American pop culture today. We dive into pop culture moments such as Bama Rush, MAGA beauty trends on TikTok, the rise of wellness influencers and how their “apolitical” content is quietly reviving anti-feminist ideals of the olden days. The vibe shift isn’t just about aesthetics, but a recoding of culture and politics. In this shift, we question what kinds of stories of womanhood get amplified — and which are erased?
【时间轴 The When】
1:30: Sydney Sweeney 牛仔裤广告的争议,保守派审美的回归
8:00 “男人圈” vs “女人圈” 文化是如何通过健身、美容等“非政治”话题,随后逐渐渗入反女性主义和厌女的意识形态。
11:20 女人圈的健康类头部播客如何散播保守女性主义,“健康 = 美丽 = 道德”
14:20 自由派女性叙事倦怠,保守叙事趁虚而入
23:48 从Bama Rush大学姐妹会文化来看美国南方保守主义的女性理想
38:44 保守叙事下新一代女性的人生理想是如何变成寻找值得依靠的伴侣
1:30 Sydney Sweeney and her jeans/genes and the return of the conservative femininity
8:00 – “manosphere” vs “womanosphere” cultures use seemingly non-political topics like fitness and beauty to gradually introduce anti-feminist and misogynistic ideologies
11:20 – top women’s health podcasts in the “womanosphere” spread conservative femininity, promoting the idea that “Health = Beauty = Morality”
14:20 – Fatigue with liberal female narratives opens the door for conservative messaging
23:48 – Examining ideals of Southern conservative femininity through Bama Rush and Greek life
38:44 – The reinvention of the feminist ideal: securing a reliable partner and what that means for society
【拓展链接 The Links】
社会学家Anne Helen Petersen关于Bama Rush的文章,链接
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除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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071 | Vibe Shift 三部曲:被社交媒体撕裂的爱丁顿 Eddington Under Siege
【聊了什么The What】 这期节目我们聊了Ari Aster的最新电影《爱丁顿》(Eddington)——一部让人看完想骂街,但又忍不住要深度分析的作品。这位以《仲夏夜惊魂》和《遗传厄运》闻名的导演,这次把镜头对准了2020年5月疫情初期的美国小镇,用西部片的外壳包装了一个关于社交媒体如何撕裂社群的恐怖故事。Joaquin Phoenix饰演的老派警长Joe Cross和Pedro …
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【聊了什么The What】
这期节目我们聊了Ari Aster的最新电影《爱丁顿》(Eddington)——一部让人看完想骂街,但又忍不住要深度分析的作品。这位以《仲夏夜惊魂》和《遗传厄运》闻名的导演,这次把镜头对准了2020年5月疫情初期的美国小镇,用西部片的外壳包装了一个关于社交媒体如何撕裂社群的恐怖故事。Joaquin Phoenix饰演的老派警长Joe Cross和Pedro Pascal饰演的自由派市长在这个巴掌大的新墨西哥小镇展开政治对决,而真正的赢家却是那个从头到尾都面目模糊的科技巨头——他们要在这里建数据中心。我们从这部极具争议性的电影聊开去,探讨了BLM运动的社交媒体化、取消文化的游戏规则、以及阴谋论如何在小镇邻里间传播。最终发现,当所有人都在网上吵成一团的时候,真正的危机——AI和大科技公司——已经悄悄占领了现实世界。
This episode we dove into Ari Aster's latest film "Eddington"—a movie that'll make you want to throw things at the screen, but also can't stop you from obsessively analyzing every frame. The director behind "Midsommar" and "Hereditary" sets his sights on a fictional small American town during the early pandemic chaos of May 2020, wrapping a horror story about social media tearing communities apart in Western film genre. Joaquin Phoenix's old-school sheriff Joe Cross goes head-to-head with Pedro Pascal's liberal mayor in this tiny New Mexico town, while the real winner turns out to be the faceless tech giant that's been planning to build a data center there all along. We used this deeply polarizing film to unpack everything from how BLM got weaponized on social media, to the toxic rules of cancel culture, to how conspiracy theories spread like wildfire through small-town neighbor networks. The ending is both alarming and defeatist: while everyone was busy fighting online, the real crisis—AI and Big Tech—had already quietly taken over.
【时间轴 The When】
00:00 - Vibe Shift:从Covid到现在的时代精神转向
02:32 - Ari Aster这一次拍了个什么片?
06:45 - 小镇警长和自由派精英的对决导演拉偏架了吗?
15:45 - BLM运动的社交媒体化和"good trouble"的商品化
22:22 - 社交媒体游戏规则如何让所有人"吃相难看"
34:24 - 创伤如何成为舆论场的货币
38:55 - 小蓝的"假新闻田野调查"
45:19 - 电影结局的虚无主义倾向
48:19 - "SolidGoldMagikarp"彩蛋
52:18 - AI数据中心对美国小镇的真实影响
58:02 - 艺术家有权创作"残忍"艺术吗?
1:10:00 - 爱丁顿里的真实社会议题
00:00 - Vibe Shift: Zeitgeist transformation from pandemic to now
02:32 - Film plot overview: Political showdown in a New Mexico town
06:45 - Did Ari Aster put his thumb on the scale in the fight between the sheriff and the mayor
15:45 - The social media-ization of BLM and commodification of "good trouble"
22:22 - How social media rules make everyone look bad
34:24 - How trauma becomes currency in the discourse
38:55 - Xiao Lan's "fake news field research"
45:19 - The film's nihilistic ending
48:19 - "SolidGoldMagikarp" Easter egg
52:18 - Real impact of AI data centers on American small towns
58:02 - Do artists have the right to create "cruel" art?
1:10:00 - Real social issues plaiguing today's America in "Eddington"
【拓展链接 The Links】
- Film Colossus关于"Solid Gold Magikarp"异常标记的分析文章
- 纽约时报关于数据中心对社区用水影响的报道
- Naomi Klein《Doppelganger》
- Matthew Yglesias"The Great Awokening"
【疲惫红书 CyberRed】
除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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070 | Kpop猎魔女团:现在的迪士尼公主要工作的 Kpop Demon Hunters are princesses with a dayjob
【聊了什么The What】 这个夏天,我们无数次的跟人解释:Netflix的Kpop猎魔女团虽然设定听起来很扯,但真的是好看的。顶流女团的真实身份是猎魔人,而她们的竞争对手(非常工具人的)男团则是一群真正的恶魔,用歌声和粉丝量争夺人类灵魂。我们从这部作品聊开去,探讨它如何超越了新时代的迪士尼公主叙事,创造了一个有工作的、更具代入感的当代女性童年幻想的寄托:和最好的朋友住在一起,拥有穿不完的漂亮衣服,人生最大的困难是和 …
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【聊了什么The What】
这个夏天,我们无数次的跟人解释:Netflix的Kpop猎魔女团虽然设定听起来很扯,但真的是好看的。顶流女团的真实身份是猎魔人,而她们的竞争对手(非常工具人的)男团则是一群真正的恶魔,用歌声和粉丝量争夺人类灵魂。我们从这部作品聊开去,探讨它如何超越了新时代的迪士尼公主叙事,创造了一个有工作的、更具代入感的当代女性童年幻想的寄托:和最好的朋友住在一起,拥有穿不完的漂亮衣服,人生最大的困难是和朋友的互相不理解。在一定程度上,对小朋友可能有点太幼稚,但对疲惫的我们正中要害。同时我们也回顾了过去十年 K-Pop 的全球化,从 BTS 在疫情期间的爆红到 Blackpink 登上 Coachella 主舞台;好像体感上今年夏天真的不一样,他们说的“韩流闯美”或许真的来了?
This summer, we found ourselves repeatedly explaining to people: like, yes, Netflix’s K-pop Demon Hunters sounds ridiculous on paper, you might even feel ridiculous watching the first 20 minutes — but it’s actually really good. The setup? A top girl group is secretly made up of demon hunters, while their rivals—the boy band—are literal demons battling for human souls through their music and fandom numbers.
We used this show as a jumping-off point to explore how it goes beyond the new-generation Disney princess narrative to create a more relatable modern female fantasy—one where you live with your best friends, have endless fabulous outfits, and your biggest challenge in life is misunderstandings between friends. It might feel childish to some, especially for kids, but for us—burned out adults—it hit the emotional sweet spot.
We also looked back on a decade of K-pop global expansion, from BTS’s meteoric rise during the pandemic to Blackpink headlining Coachella. This summer feels different. Maybe the “Korean Wave” going global is actually happening?
【时间轴 The When】
00:39 - 奇幻首尔里用歌声封印恶魔的猎魔女团HUNTRIX。
10:28 - 立体的女性友谊和工具人男团
18:35 - K-pop产业的理想化呈现
21:26 - 从《降世神通》到现在亚裔创作者主体性的增强
27:14 - 保护我们的童年幻想和天经地义的女性友谊
42:34 - Kpop在欧美市场主流化了吗?
00:39 - HUNTRIX: A demon-hunting girl group sealing demons with songs in a fantastical Seoul
10:28 - Deep female friendships vs. the “utility tool” boy band
18:35 - The idealized portrayal of the K-pop industry
21:26 - From Avatar: The Last Airbender to the growing agency of Asian creators
27:14 - Protecting our childhood fantasies and the naturalness of female friendship
42:34 - Has K-pop gone mainstream in Western markets?
【拓展链接 The Links】
58 “BTS之父”套现4000亿:韩娱教父的资本骗局遭政治狙击
【疲惫红书 CyberRed】
除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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069 | Mountainhead: 未经许可扮演上帝的硅谷精英 Mountainhead and Silicon Valley Elites' God Complex
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【聊了什么The What】
HBO 新片Mountainhead是《继承之战》编剧 Jesse Armstrong 的导演初作。这一次,他把镜头从东海岸的传媒财阀转向了西海岸的科技巨头。
四位科技界巨头和曾经的好友在犹他州的豪华山庄度周末,外面的世界却因一款 AI 生成工具制造的政治假新闻陷入混乱。他们坐在山顶的别墅中,讨论着权力、技术与人类未来,以及如何延长自己的生命,甚至抵御死亡,上传意识。节目中,我们谈到了科技精英的傲慢与脆弱、有效加速主义(e/acc)在硅谷的兴起、从 All In Podcast 到特朗普就职典礼的科技圈政治野心,以及为什么现实比电影还科幻,却让创作者越来越难以讲述。从HBO关于科技的剧集大火的Silicon Valley到这部同样关于讲述科技圈内部故事的Mountainhead只有短短几年过去了。而太多改变已经发生。
Mountainhead, HBO’s new film, marks the directorial debut of Succession writer Jesse Armstrong. This time, he shifts the camera from East Coast media dynasties to West Coast tech titans.
The story follows four former friends and tech moguls spending a weekend at a luxury mountain estate in Utah, while the outside world descends into chaos—triggered by political disinformation generated by an AI tool they helped create. From the comfort of their hilltop villa, they debate power, technology, the future of humanity, and how to prolong their own lives—even resisting death by uploading their consciousness.
In this episode, we talk about the arrogance and fragility of tech elites, the rise of Effective Accelerationism (e/acc) in Silicon Valley, the political ambitions of the tech world—from the All-In Podcast to Trump’s inauguration—and why reality has become more sci-fi than fiction, making it harder than ever for creators to tell these stories. Only a few years separate HBO’s Silicon Valley and Mountainhead, but in that short span, the world—and tech—has changed in ways no one could have scripted.
【时间轴 The When】
03:39 我们最喜欢的编剧把我们的推特故事线拍成电影了
08:15 四位主角是如何“缝合”现实中的硅谷大佬们?
15:56 硅谷意识形态的转变:从商业逻辑到宗教信仰
32:29 科技大佬的权力渴望与“大教堂”、“创始人主权”、“Luxury Belief”
42:30 渴望权力,却又想逃避责任的Tech Bro文化
54:29 警惕权力的新外衣与我们应有的警惕
03:39 Our favorite screenwriter turns our Twitter storylines into a movie
08:15 How the four protagonists are “stitched together” from real-life Silicon Valley moguls
15:56 The ideological shift in Silicon Valley: from business logic to religious belief
32:29 Tech elites’ thirst for power: “The Cathedral,” “Founder Sovereignty,” and “Luxury Beliefs”
42:30 The Tech Bro dilemma—craving power while dodging responsibility
54:29 The new disguise of power and why we must remain vigilant
【拓展链接 The Links】
小华提到的漫画:“参议院的老板们”——1889
【疲惫红书 CyberRed】
除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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068|「片场风云」:好莱坞的自黑与自救 The Studio: Hollywood's Self-Deprecation and Redemption
【聊了什么The What】 Apple TV+ 的新剧The Studio《片场风云》是一个意想不到的亮点。它是Seth Rogen创作的剧集,是一部用讽刺和结构解构整个娱乐工业的黑色喜剧。这个剧也是近年以来我们看过的最生动、最好笑、最让人尴尬、最不怕自黑的剧集。它还精准还原了电影内容行业的虚荣和危机和在这样畸形结构中的人如何自处,以及让我们去思考当下的影视工业的在科技行业和流媒体的冲击下,未来会是怎样。另外来自小蓝 …
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【聊了什么The What】
Apple TV+ 的新剧The Studio《片场风云》是一个意想不到的亮点。它是Seth Rogen创作的剧集,是一部用讽刺和结构解构整个娱乐工业的黑色喜剧。这个剧也是近年以来我们看过的最生动、最好笑、最让人尴尬、最不怕自黑的剧集。它还精准还原了电影内容行业的虚荣和危机和在这样畸形结构中的人如何自处,以及让我们去思考当下的影视工业的在科技行业和流媒体的冲击下,未来会是怎样。另外来自小蓝的抱歉:我的录制环境特别差,对不起大家座机音质!
Apple TV+'s new show The Studio is an unexpected highlight. It's a Seth Rogen-created show, a dark comedy that deconstructs the entire entertainment industry with satire and structure. The show is also one of the most vivid, funny, cringe-inducing, and unafraid of self-hatred episodes we've seen in recent years. It also accurately restores the vanity and crisis of the movie content industry and how people in such a monstrous structure can live with themselves, as well as making us think about what the future of the current movie and television industry's will look like in light of the tech industry and streaming media.
【时间轴 The When】
03:59 我们为什么喜欢《片场风云》Why are we obsessed with the studio
07:14 展开说说 The Oner(第二集2)Let’s dive into the Oner (ep 2)
14:52 我们对Matt Remick怎么看? Is the studio head a hapless hero? Diving into Matt Remick’s character
17:20 千禧一代掌权成为草台班子本台的困境 When the millennial worker becomes an executive
23:42 《片场风云》的女配角们 The fantastic supporting ensemble of the Studio
35:52 Kool-aid Movie和文化IP The Kool-aid Movie and what it says about IP movies
39:50 Kool-aid Movie 选角与电影中的政治正确 how to balance ‘wokeness’ in casting
46:24 金球奖 The Golden Globes episode
49:54 危及好莱坞存在的才是真正的反派 Who’s the real villain threatening the film industry?
52:52 好莱坞何去何从?Where does Hollywood go from here?
【拓展链接 The Links】
“The Studio” Pokes Fun at Hollywood’s Existential Struggle
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除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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067|安多第二季:帝国的边缘,革命的代价 Andor Season 2: The Edge of Empire and the Cost of Revolution
【聊了什么The What】 在一个充满官僚主义的银河帝国中,革命究竟意味着什么?当理想主义者遭遇现实的残酷,"正义"与"邪恶"的界限是否真的那么清晰?从Luthen的革命理念到Dedra的极权思维,剧集以令人不安的方式探讨了权力、反抗与人性的本质。 革命的本质是什么?它需要什么样的代价和牺牲?从卢森的马基雅维利式的组织者形象,到帝国完美官僚的非人性,再到太空法国的群众运动,《安多》探讨了反抗与压迫、个人与集体、理想与 …
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【聊了什么The What】
在一个充满官僚主义的银河帝国中,革命究竟意味着什么?当理想主义者遭遇现实的残酷,"正义"与"邪恶"的界限是否真的那么清晰?从Luthen的革命理念到Dedra的极权思维,剧集以令人不安的方式探讨了权力、反抗与人性的本质。
革命的本质是什么?它需要什么样的代价和牺牲?从卢森的马基雅维利式的组织者形象,到帝国完美官僚的非人性,再到太空法国的群众运动,《安多》探讨了反抗与压迫、个人与集体、理想与现实之间的复杂关系。
Andor Season 2 is a unique work in the Star Wars universe that features no lightsabers, Force powers, or chosen ones, instead focusing on marginalized characters and the imperial bureaucracy. The series tells the story of how the Empire was overthrown, showcasing the desperation of ordinary people, cracks within the Empire, and the real cost of rebellion. As "a prequel to a prequel" of the original Star Wars trilogy, Andor Season 2 ends by seamlessly transitioning into the film Rogue One, revealing these characters' ultimate fates.
The show explores several thought-provoking themes: Is the nature of revolution romantic idealism or bloody reality? How does the Empire's propaganda machine justify colonization and genocide through stereotypes and inciting hatred? How do characters like Luther and Dedra represent different facets of revolution and oppression? Perhaps most importantly, in an age of rampant social media where everyone claims to possess "the truth," how can we discern the reality of history?
【时间轴 The When】
3:59 我们为什么喜欢《片场风云》Why are we obsessed with the studio 7:14 展开说说 The Oner(第二集2)Let’s dive into the Oner (ep 2) 14:52 我们对Matt Remick怎么看? Is the studio head a hapless hero? Diving into Matt Remick’s character 17:20 千禧一代掌权成为草台班子本台的困境 When the millennial worker becomes an executive
23:42 《片场风云》的女配角们 The fantastic supporting ensemble of the Studio 35:52 Kool-aid Movie和文化IP The Kool-aid Movie and what it says about IP movies 39:50 Kool-aid Movie 选角与电影中的政治正确 how to balance ‘wokeness’ in casting 46:24 金球奖 The Golden Globes episode 49:54 危及好莱坞存在的才是真正的反派 Who’s the real villain threatening the film industry? 52:52 好莱坞何去何从?Where does Hollywood go from here?
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Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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066|去戛纳,吃了点细糠 Our Cannes 2025 Recap
【聊了什么The What】 疲惫娇娃来戛纳电影节了!本期节目发自南法,娃们五天集中看了快二十部电影,本期节目和大家分享我们看片(工作)的心路历程,我们心中的金棕榈影片,以及当今世界电影创作的一些思考。本节目录制于5月22日,此刻我们还有三部电影没看,包括毕赣的《狂野时代》。更多戛纳趣闻,新闻发布会内容,以及最后一天观影的影评,请关注我们的小红书! Your favorite CyberPink gals …
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【聊了什么The What】
疲惫娇娃来戛纳电影节了!本期节目发自南法,娃们五天集中看了快二十部电影,本期节目和大家分享我们看片(工作)的心路历程,我们心中的金棕榈影片,以及当今世界电影创作的一些思考。本节目录制于5月22日,此刻我们还有三部电影没看,包括毕赣的《狂野时代》。更多戛纳趣闻,新闻发布会内容,以及最后一天观影的影评,请关注我们的小红书!
Your favorite CyberPink gals reporting live from the Cannes film festival! We watched almost 20 movies in the span of 5 days, the range was truly from highest to lowest. In this episode we unpack all the movies by category, highlight our Palme d’Or picks, and muse on the current state of the world and the stories that films are telling. This episode was recorded on May 22nd, so it does not include our reviews for the final day of films. Please head over to our Xiaohongshu for these additional reviews and extra behind the scenes content!
【时间轴 The When】
00:00 我们在戛纳的感受和吐槽
06:05 “戛纳影评人口碑解禁” 《风林火山》翻了个大的
09:15 我们此次看过的18部电影大致分成四类
10:33 第一类:”法西斯主义不行“;巴西电影《密探》影评
13:50 反抗极权的老登埃及电影《共和之鹰》影评
16:37 我们心中的金棕榈选手伊朗电影《普通事故》影评,极有力量的作品
27:00 第二类:”女性生命体验“;意大利电影《外面》影评
31:57 斯嘉丽·约翰逊演而优则导的第一部作品”Elenor the Great” 影评
35:47 日本女导演早川千惠关于家庭、死亡的电影《雷诺阿》影评
37:44 西班牙女导演卡拉·西蒙关于寻亲的半自传电影《朝圣》“Romeria”影评
43:12 求求导演再剪一个版本出来—《花漾少女杀人事件》影评
48:44 讲述波兰保姆故事的以色列电影《妈妈》和感官电影《阿尔法》
50:09 第三类:“成瘾物质“;让我们意外非常喜欢的法国电影《陨石》影评
53:47 一句话影评《时光留声》谢谢太太找两个帅哥把BL文拍成电影
54:10 一句话影评哥伦比亚电影《诗人》,意外喜欢的细糠
55:06 第四类:一些风格化电影和商业片《天国与地狱》,《幸福之路》,《腓尼基阴谋》
56:05 关于极化公共讨论的美国电影《艾丁顿》影评
58:05 金棕榈二号种子关于家庭、艺术、原谅的挪威电影《情感价值》,细糠!推荐!
00:00 first impressions and rants about Cannes film festival
06:05 “Cannes reviews embargo lifted” — Juno Mak’s Sons of the Neon Night crashed and burned
09:15 The 18 films we watched can be roughly grouped into four categories
10:33 Category 1: “Fascism is bad” — Review of Brazilian film The Secret Agent
13:50 a movie about resisting authoritarianism, but too much of an old man “know-it-all” POV — Review of Egyptian film Eagles of the Republic
16:37 Our personal Palme d'Or pick — Iranian film by director Jafar Panahi, A Simple Accident, a powerful work
27:00 Category 2: “Women's life experiences” — Review of Italian film Fuori
31:57 Scarlett Johansson’s directorial debut Elenor the Great
35:47 Japanese director Chihiro Hayakawa’s film on family and death Renoir
37:44 Semi-autobiographical Spanish film about searching for family — Romería by Carla Simón
43:12 Begging this director to release a new cut — Review of Girl on Edge
48:44 Israeli film Mama about a Polish nanny, and the sensory experience of Alpha
50:09 Category 3: “Addictive substances” (substance abuse) — Surprise favorite: French film Meteor
53:47 One-sentence review: History of Sound — Thanks to the director for casting two hot guys to make a BL film
54:10 One-sentence review: Colombian film Un Poeta — unexpectedly liked this subtle gem
55:06 Category 4: the “other” category, including highly stylized and commercial films — Highest to Lowest, Lucky Lu, Phoenician Scheme
56:05 Review of American film Eddington, about the polarization of public discourse
58:05 our Palme d’Or runner up — Norwegian film Sentimental Value, on family, art, and forgiveness. A gem! Highly recommended!
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Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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065 | 秘密会议:传统、权力、和当今的寓言 Conclave: A parable of our time
【2025戛纳电影节 2025 Cannes Film Festival】 节目开始之前,和大家说一声,疲惫娇娃的几个女的已经空降戛纳参加电影节了!请关注我们的同名小红书账号看来自戛纳的更新。 We have landed in Cannes for the film festival! Follow us on Xiaohongshu for more updates from Cannes. 【聊了什么 The …
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【2025戛纳电影节 2025 Cannes Film Festival】
节目开始之前,和大家说一声,疲惫娇娃的几个女的已经空降戛纳参加电影节了!请关注我们的同名小红书账号看来自戛纳的更新。
We have landed in Cannes for the film festival! Follow us on Xiaohongshu for more updates from Cannes.
【聊了什么 The What】
本期疲惫娇娃,我们聊的是2024年的电影Conclave ——一部设定在教皇去世之后、围绕选出新一任教皇展开的电影。在这部由Edward Berger执导、Ralph Fiennes主演的作品中,观众得以窥见那场始终被神秘包围的梵蒂冈教皇选举:密室中的拉票、权力的计算、秘密的揭露,以及制度对个人的塑形与反噬。
我们从电影谈起,延伸到对天主教会体制的讨论:它如何用神圣维系秩序,又如何将改革压制在传统之下。影片中的主角们不仅是宗教人物,更是复杂的政治人类;而那些隐于画面边缘的修女、工作人员,则承载着最深的情感张力与结构性的沉默。
节目中也会提到最近现实中那位“美国出生的教皇”所引发的舆论回响,从中对照出Conclave所描绘的制度困境与文化裂缝。在一个讲求现代化的时代,信仰、怀疑、服从与转变之间的冲突从未停止,反而愈加微妙。在这集播客,我们也借着Conclave,用元视角反思了我们几个主播过去几年的信仰和布道。
In this episode of Cyberpink, we discuss the 2024 film Conclave — a story set in the aftermath of a pope’s death, centered on the secretive process of electing his successor. Directed by Edward Berger and starring Ralph Fiennes, the film offers a rare look inside the Vatican’s cloistered world: backroom deals, power games, hidden truths, and the way institutions shape — and consume — the individuals within them.
Starting with the film, we move into a broader conversation about the structure of the Catholic Church: how it uses sacredness to maintain order, and how tradition often suppresses the possibility of reform. The protagonists in Conclave are not just religious figures — they are deeply political beings. And those who remain on the margins of the screen — nuns, aides, staff — carry the film’s quietest, yet most intense emotional weight.
We also touch on the recent real-world election of the first U.S.-born pope and the media discourse surrounding it, drawing parallels with Conclave's portrayal of institutional tension and cultural fracture. In a world increasingly shaped by modernity, the conflicts between faith, doubt, obedience, and transformation have only grown more intricate. We also used Conclave as a lens to go meta, to reflect our journeys as long-term podcasters, examining our beliefs and evangelism over the past few years.
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【时间轴 The When】
00:00 — Conclave电影本影也没想到自己会因教皇方济各逝世而意外获得现实相关性,成为2025年最火的电影
03:50 — 现实中的美国出生的教宗Pope Leo XIV承认在真正的Conclave前也看了电影
04:40 — 什么是“Conclave”?拉丁语意为“上锁的房间”——一种自13世纪起流传至今的选教皇仪式
06:15 — 黑烟与白烟:那些宣布教皇当选的古老烟雾信号,也曾锁门限食以逼出结果
11:30 — 初观感:神秘又幽默,教廷政治竟然有点像校园食堂地缘政治问题?主角Lawrence像一个疲惫又需要收拾烂摊子的VP
19:13 — Lawrence想辞职,前任教皇说他是个“农场经理”而非“牧羊人”——讨论教皇制度管理与灵性角色的张力。疲惫娇娃进入meta状态,反思自己过去几年的信仰和布教
30:30 — 影片中Lawrence的一句台词引发共鸣:“确定性是团结的大敌,是宽容的死敌”——它如何映射当代的分裂与政治疲劳?疲惫娇娃继续meta
50:00 — 位关键女性角色:Sister Agnes,一个在结构之外但洞察深刻的“隐身者”。以及为什么我们要反复说女性角色
01:03:10 — 大结局讨论:一个意想不到的人选成为教皇,我们如何解读这个“神迹”。
00:00 — The film Conclave likely never expected to gain such sudden real-world relevance after the death of Pope Francis, becoming one of the most talked-about movies of 2025
03:50 — In real life, the newly elected U.S.-born Pope Leo XIV admitted he watched Conclave before the actual conclave took place
04:40 — What is a "Conclave"? The term comes from Latin, meaning “a locked room” — referring to the centuries-old papal election ritual that dates back to the 13th century
06:15 — Black smoke or white smoke: the ancient visual signals used to announce papal election results. In earlier centuries, cardinals were even locked in and given limited food to force a decision
11:30 — First impressions: the film is mysterious yet funny. The political dynamics of the Vatican strangely resemble cafeteria geopolitics. The main character, Lawrence, comes across like an exhausted VP cleaning up institutional messes
19:13 — Lawrence wants to resign. The previous Pope calls him a “farm manager” rather than a “shepherd” — sparking a discussion on the tension between institutional maintenance and spiritual leadership. The hosts go meta, reflecting on their own relationship to faith and public engagement in recent years
30:30 — A line from Lawrence resonates: “Certainty is the great enemy of unity, the deadly enemy of tolerance.” The hosts explore how this speaks to contemporary political polarization and collective fatigue — and continue the meta reflection
50:00 — A key female character is introduced: Sister Agnes, a perceptive “invisible” figure operating outside the official structure. The hosts dig into why they keep returning to the role of women in the film
01:03:10 — Final act discussion: an unexpected figure is elected Pope — how do we interpret this so-called “miracle”?
【拓展链接 The Links】
- Inside the Politics of the Papal Conclave – The New York Times (May 4, 2025)
- How a Film About the Pope Became Reality – The New York Times (April 21, 2025)
- Campaigning for the Papacy? Vatican Grapples With the Unspoken – The New York Times (April 28, 2025)
【疲惫红书 CyberRed】
除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
064 | 立夏氛围检查:疲惫娇娃闯入东京星战庆典 Vibe Check: Crashing Tokyo’s Star Wars Celebration
【聊了什么 The What】 这个四月,疲惫娇娃被邀请去了大城市东京参加两年一度的星战庆典。 这个地表浓度最高的星战粉丝盛会是一个持续了三十多年的文化现象,也是一个迪士尼的商业帝国和星战的跨越多个时代的原生粉丝文化的结合,这次的日本庆典是近几届中规模最大的一届,也在各种细节中致敬了日本的历史和文化。 我们除了在红毯上采访到了巨多明星以外,还有特别多见闻需要和几个女的们yap yap …
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【聊了什么 The What】
这个四月,疲惫娇娃被邀请去了大城市东京参加两年一度的星战庆典。
这个地表浓度最高的星战粉丝盛会是一个持续了三十多年的文化现象,也是一个迪士尼的商业帝国和星战的跨越多个时代的原生粉丝文化的结合,这次的日本庆典是近几届中规模最大的一届,也在各种细节中致敬了日本的历史和文化。
我们除了在红毯上采访到了巨多明星以外,还有特别多见闻需要和几个女的们yap yap. 所以这期是一集氛围闲聊,主要聊聊阿花和一芳在庆典中的见闻。我们聊了星战粉丝群体的多元化和演变、庆典现场的独特氛围和活动安排、庆典中的重磅官宣(新电影、瑞恩·高斯林等等!)、与《曼达洛人》和《安多》主创及主演的采访体验、星战IP与日本文化的交融等等……
另外这一期的许多提到的和明星们的面对面采访视频都在我们的同名小红书发布了。请大家在小红书上关注我们!《安多》第二季也开播了!欢迎大家点这里回顾我们聊第一季的节目!
In mid-April, CyberPink was invited to Tokyo Japan, to attend Star Wars Celebration! It was our first time at this iconic gathering of all fans across galaxies, but Star Wars Celebration has been around since the late 1990s. It’s a testament to the multi-generational and organic nature of being a Star Wars fan, but also goes to show the commercial prowess of Disney (which acquired LucasFilm in 2012). This year’s celebration in Japan was the largest in recent years and paid tribute to Japanese history and culture in many subtle ways.
Your favorite gals got to join the press line and interview your favorite stars, but that’s not all! In this episode, the gals who went spill the tea with the other gals on what exactly went down at Star Wars Celebration 2025. We talk about the evolving diversity of the Star Wars fanbase (and movies), the unique vibe and programming at the event, major announcements (New movies! New shows! Ryan Gosling!), what it was like interviewing the creators and stars of The Mandalorian and Andor, how the Star Wars IP merges with Japanese culture, and more…
Additionally, many of the face-to-face interview videos with celebrities mentioned in this episode have been posted on our Xiaohongshu account with the same name. Please follow us on Xiaohongshu! Andor Season 2 has also premiered! Feel free to click here to revisit our episode where we discussed Season 1!
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【时间轴 The When】
00:01:10 为什么会被邀请参加?星战庆典背景
00:02:30 星战粉丝群体的演变与自我认知
00:04:23 参与者非常多元化,各个年龄层都有;场地巨大,分为不同展台和舞台;光剑到处都是
00:16:30 “妈妈我们出息了”之红毯采访体验:我们和所有大明星们都聊了一遍天
00:20:06 高司令要进入星战宇宙了
00:27:00 近年星战故事的焦点变化:不再只关注原力/绝地,普通角色戏份增加,《安多》和《曼达洛人》中的风暴兵也很可怕。从“将军的故事”到“生灵的故事”
00:31:07 Pedro Pascal(佩德罗·帕斯卡)采访:关于他的“守护者”角色(《最后生还者》和《曼达洛人》)
00:35:25 回到日本之行与星战文化交融;文化挪用与互相启发/融合的讨论,中国所扮演的角色
00:47:47 迪士尼的商业模式:虽然看起来是粉丝主导的聚会,背后是迪士尼强大的垂直整合商业帝国。通过提供沉浸式体验和产品,巩固其地位
00:50:10 粉丝选择哪个IP是购买选择,是为多巴胺和身份买单
00:53:00 海登·克里斯滕森与安纳金:作为“美强惨”杨过,在东亚女性粉丝中非常受欢迎
00:57:15 下届星战庆典预告:2025年星战50周年,将在美国洛杉矶举办
00:01:10 How did we get invited? What is Star Wars Celebration?
00:02:30 The evolution of the Star Wars fandom and self-perception
00:04:23 Fans from all ages and across the world attended; the venue was massive and divided into various stages, booths, and exhibition space; Lightsabers were everywhere
00:16:30 “Mom, we made it!” Red carpet interview experience: We got to chat with all the major stars
00:20:06 Ryan Gosling is joining the Star Wars universe
00:27:00 The shift in Star Wars storytelling focus: No longer just about the Force or Jedi — more screen time for everyday characters. Even stormtroopers have personalities. From “stories of generals” to “stories of ordinary beings”
00:31:07 Interview with Pedro Pascal: On playing “protector” roles
00:35:25 Return to the fusion of Japan and Star Wars culture; Cultural appropriation vs. mutual inspiration and the role China plays
00:47:47 Even though the celebration feels fan-led, it’s backed by Disney’s powerful vertically integrated empire. Through immersive experiences and products, they’re reinforcing their dominance
00:50:10 Choosing a fandom/IP is like a purchase decision: It’s about paying for dopamine — and identity
00:53:00 Hayden Christensen as Anakin: As the “beautiful, strong, tragic” type, he's especially beloved by East Asian women fans
00:57:15 Teaser for the next Star Wars Celebration: 2025 will mark the 50th anniversary of Star Wars, and the celebration will be held in Los Angeles, USA
【拓展链接 The Links】
《安多》第一季的节目!
【疲惫红书 CyberRed】
除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
063 |「白莲花度假村」第三季:身份即牢笼 White Lotus S3: Identity as Prison
【疲惫广播 What's New】 上周疲惫娇娃的阿花和一芳受邀参加了在东京举办的星战盛典,请大家移步小红书看我们的精彩采访和现场直击! 《安多》第二季也即将开播!欢迎大家点这里回顾我们聊第一季的节目! 【聊了什么 The What】 「白莲花度假村」第三季是今年在美国极具文化影响力的一部剧集,由HBO出品,Mike …
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【疲惫广播 What's New】 上周疲惫娇娃的阿花和一芳受邀参加了在东京举办的星战盛典,请大家移步小红书看我们的精彩采访和现场直击! 《安多》第二季也即将开播!欢迎大家点这里回顾我们聊第一季的节目!
【聊了什么 The What】
「白莲花度假村」第三季是今年在美国极具文化影响力的一部剧集,由HBO出品,Mike White(麦克白)导演编剧并且制作。第三季将故事转移至泰国,铺垫了整整八集沉重气氛给天堂版的背景增添了一丝诡异和不详。北卡莱罗纳州Ratliff家族的表面光鲜与内里腐朽;Rick与Chelsea这对灵魂伴侣背后隐藏的深渊;三位闺蜜之间那微妙平衡的友谊和人生;第一季返场人物Belinda与Greg/Gary的命运再度交织;所有人物的结局都像一场精心设计的因果轮回。
在这个看似奢华的度假天堂里,每个人都被困在自己的身份牢笼中无法脱身。当暴力事件最终爆发,我们是否能从这些角色的命运中看到自己的影子?信仰的缺失是否就是现代人痛苦的根源?这部剧巧妙借鉴佛教寓言,融入业力、痛苦之源贪嗔痴等等概念,为观看的我们提供了一面审视自我的镜子。
这集播客小蓝和一芳请来朋友阿点一起聊聊这部让我们和全网观众欲罢不能的电视剧。
注意:本节目完全剧透!我们在讨论中尽量让没看过的听众也能听懂。如果你已经看过可以跳过梗概,如果还想看而且介意剧透建议收藏,之后再听。
本期嘉宾:阿点(欢迎订阅阿点的newsletter)
"The White Lotus" Season 3 is one of the most culturally influential series this year, produced by HBO and directed, written, and produced by Mike White. The third season moves the story to Thailand, building up a heavy atmosphere over eight episodes that adds a touch of the strange and ominous to the paradise-like setting. The seemingly perfect but inwardly corrupt Ratliff family from North Carolina; the abyss hidden behind the "soulmate" relationship of Rick and Chelsea; the delicately balanced friendship and lives of three girlfriends; the intertwined destinies of Season 1 returning characters Belinda and Greg/Gary - all characters' endings seem like a carefully designed karmic cycle.
Compared to the previous two seasons, the third season is more of a philosophical journey about identity, desire, and redemption, drawing on the director's own research and thinking about Buddhism, skillfully incorporating concepts such as karma and the three poisons (greed, anger, and delusion) into the plot, providing us with a mirror to examine modern society and human nature.
In this podcast episode, Xiaolan and Yifang invite their friend Adian to discuss this TV series that has made us and viewers across the internet unable to stop watching.
Note: This episode contains complete spoilers! We try to make our discussion understandable to listeners who haven't seen the show. If you've already watched it, you can skip the plot summary; if you still want to watch and mind spoilers, we suggest bookmarking this episode to listen to later.
Guest: A Dian (Subscribe to her newsletter)
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【时间轴 The When】
00:03:43 看过的可以跳过:剧透警告与人物介绍
00:08:42 白莲花这一季和往季的区别,观影第一印象
00:18:08 全网出圈的《白莲花度假村》梗,杜克大学“紧急公关”
00:25:23 三位闺蜜:女性友谊背后的嫉妒、理解和爱;为什么Laurie那段话让我们哇哇大哭
00:35:02 美国南方老钱核心家庭的光鲜和腐朽
00:53:43 Rick和Chelsea,救赎与被救赎的佛教寓言
01:20:51 第三世界男性与第一世界女性的权力关系
01:26:39 麦克白的创作意图:不以道德说教为目的的叙事
00:03:43 You can skip if you've already watched: Spoiler warning and character introductions
00:08:42 Discussing how this season of White Lotus differs from previous seasons, and first impressions
00:18:08 Viral White Lotus memes, Duke University's “emergency PR response”
00:25:23 The three girlfriends: jealousy, understanding and love in female friendships; why Laurie's speech made us ugly cry
00:35:02 Troubled Southern old-money nuclear family and sibling dynamics
00:53:43 Rick and Chelsea, a Buddhist parable of redemption and being redeemed
01:20:51 Power dynamics between Third World men and First World women
01:26:39 Mike White's creative intentions: narrative without moral preaching
【拓展链接 The Links】
【疲惫红书 CyberRed】
除了播客以外,疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号,我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么,快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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