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NewRomance writer Joss Richard on defeating the sophomore slumpNovember 9, 2026 · 28 min
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About the podcast

Looking for your next great read? The Next Chapter’s got you covered! Book lovers join host Antonio Michael Downing to dive deep into great books. Big feelings, hot takes, enlightening conversations — you’ve never been in a book club like this before. It’s Canada’s book club, and everyone’s invited. So pull up a chair and join the conversation. New episodes every Saturday and Monday.

Episodes 94

  1. Romance writer Joss Richard on defeating the sophomore slump

    28 minSeason 19 · Episode 9

    Joss Richard's debut novel It's Different This Time was a breakout hit. It was championed on Canada Reads and was a national bestseller. She joins the show to talk about writing her follow up Let's Kiss and …

    Show notes

    Joss Richard's debut novel It's Different This Time was a breakout hit. It was championed on Canada Reads and was a national bestseller. She joins the show to talk about writing her follow up Let's Kiss and Tell, what it was like writing for an audience for the first time and why romance matters. Plus, writer and critic Jason Guriel joins the show to discuss why "read widely" isn't always good advice for young writers and readers.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Let’s Kiss and Tell by Joss Richard

    Beach Read by Emily Henry


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    How Canada Reads is unleashing Morgann Book’s inner competitor

    The book that inspired Carley Fortune's writing career


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  2. Mary Walsh embraces her inner 'aging crumpet'

    25 minSeason 19 · Episode 9

    From This Hour has 22 Minutes to the new hit Netflix series Below, Mary Walsh has been keeping audiences entertained for decades. The actor and comedian has written characters and sketches throughout her …

    Show notes

    From This Hour has 22 Minutes to the new hit Netflix series Below, Mary Walsh has been keeping audiences entertained for decades. The actor and comedian has written characters and sketches throughout her career, but her personal life takes centre stage for the first time in her debut memoir Brassy Bit of Aging Crumpet. She talks about her unorthodox upbringing in Newfoundland, her expansive career in comedy and the power of humour to help us through even our darkest moments. Plus, musician Laura Roy explains why books are never far out of reach during recording sessions.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Pookie in Search of a Home by Ivy L. Wallace

    Martha Quest series by Doris Lessing

    The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov

    The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison

    Brassy Bit of Aging Crumpet by Mary Walsh

    Your Illustrated Guide To Becoming One With The Universe by Yumi Sakugawa


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    Why Mark Critch is willing to fight for Canada

    Taking a tour of Newfoundland with Alan Doyle


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  3. How the new Lord of the Flies series stacks up against the original novel

    28 minSeason 19 · Episode 18

    CBC Books Producer Bridget Raymundo never read Lord of the Flies growing up. So when it was announced a new series adaptation would be arriving on CBC Gem, she thought it was the perfect time to pick up the …

    Show notes

    CBC Books Producer Bridget Raymundo never read Lord of the Flies growing up. So when it was announced a new series adaptation would be arriving on CBC Gem, she thought it was the perfect time to pick up the timeless novel. Bridget talks about what it was like entering that universe for the first time and what she took away from it. Plus, Trevor Carter shares his go-to Stephen King recommendation to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the film Stand By Me. 


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Lord of the Flies by William Golding

    Different Seasons by Stephen King


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    Travelling to the birthplace of Interview with the Vampire

    Reflecting on a year of fear with Stephen King


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  4. The gender swapped Great Gatsby set in early 2000s Brooklyn

    25 minSeason 19 · Episode 8

    Author Xochitl Gonzalez grew up in a Brooklyn that looks much different than it does today. However, she's immortalized her home town as she remembers it in her latest novel Last Night in Brooklyn. She …

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    Author Xochitl Gonzalez grew up in a Brooklyn that looks much different than it does today. However, she's immortalized her home town as she remembers it in her latest novel Last Night in Brooklyn. She remembers it as something like the version of America that F. Scott Fitzgerald writes about in his iconic book. The air filled with optimism, the streets filled with artists, A-list celebrities and locals alike, blissfully unaware of the impending financial collapse of 2008. She’ll talk about her new book and how Brooklyn has changed over the years. Plus, Montreal musician Magi Merlin recommends the Eckhart Tolle book that impacted her life. 


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Last Night in Brooklyn by Xochitl Gonzalez

    A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle


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    Why Ann Patchett thinks the secret to success might be lowering people's expectations

    Spilling secrets and small-town adultery in The Shampoo Effect


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  5. This Law and Order star shares her favourite crime books

    28 minSeason 19 · Episode 7

    Actor Kathleen Munroe is in her fourth season starring as Detective Sergeant Frankie Bateman in Law and Order Toronto: Criminal Intent. Not only is she a committed reader, but she's also a member of a …

    Show notes

    Actor Kathleen Munroe is in her fourth season starring as Detective Sergeant Frankie Bateman in  Law and Order Toronto: Criminal Intent. Not only is she a committed reader, but she's also a member of a star-studded book club featuring Nadine Bhabha, Clark Backo and more. She joins the show to talk about some of her favourite crime related reads. Plus, CBC producer and kids' book expert Lucy Mann will recommend her family's latest middle grade series obsession. 


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    In Cold Blood by Truman Capote

    Jane: A Murder by Maggie Nelson

    Alias Grace by Margaret Atwood

    Witches of Brooklyn by Sophie Escabasse


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    What happens when 6 Canadian actors start a book club

    The book that inspired Carley Fortune's writing career


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  6. Can science fiction save us from an A.I. apocalypse?

    27 minSeason 19 · Episode 7

    Robert J. Sawyer has been called “the Dean of Canadian science fiction.” He's written 25 novels, countless columns, book reviews and keynote speeches. When he was diagnosed with cancer six years ago, he was …

    Show notes

    Robert J. Sawyer has been called “the Dean of Canadian science fiction.” He's written 25 novels, countless columns, book reviews and keynote speeches. When he was diagnosed with cancer six years ago, he was told not to go public, fearing it would hurt his chances of having future books published. Despite a terminal diagnosis, he has persevered and published several novels since. His new book is a collection of articles, reviews and speeches reflecting on decades of writing science fiction and what we can learn from the genre about entering an uncertain future. Plus, hear where writer and professor Michelle Porter finds true happiness while answering The Next Chapter's version of the Proust Questionnaire.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Sawyer on Science Fiction by Robert J Sawyer

    A Glacier’s Guide to Dying by Michelle Porter


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    Why fantasy novels offer much more than escapism

    Celina ‘Spooky Boo’ Myers on writing the next great vampire novel


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  7. How Anne Carson helped bring this Toronto band's album to life

    28 minSeason 19 · Episode 6

    In his decades of making music, writing and running a newspaper, Dave Bidini has interpreted and celebrated the things that make this country unique. Last year, that meant teaming up with Nobel laureate Anne …

    Show notes

    In his decades of making music, writing and running a newspaper, Dave Bidini has interpreted and celebrated the things that make this country unique. Last year, that meant teaming up with Nobel laureate Anne Carson and other notable Canadian writers on his band's album The Great Lakes Suites. Plus, CBC Books producer Daphné Santos-Vieira talks about her love for Jane of Lantern Hill by Lucy Maud Montgomery and why she re-reads it every year.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Jane of Lantern Hill by Lucy Maud Montgomery


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    Why Anne of Green Gables is a superstar in Japan

    Bigger than The Game: Remembering Canadian hero Ken Dryden


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  8. Why Gordon Korman never runs out of ideas

    27 minSeason 19 · Episode 6

    Since writing his first book at the age of twelve, it's hard to imagine a more prolific writer than Gordon Korman. In nearly five decades of writing for kids and young adults, he's published 107 books, and sold …

    Show notes

    Since writing his first book at the age of twelve, it's hard to imagine a more prolific writer than Gordon Korman. In nearly five decades of writing for kids and young adults, he's published 107 books, and sold around 35 million copies. He's beloved by readers spanning multiple generations and has become one of the most recognizable names in the middle grade genre. He stops by the studio to discuss how writing for young people has changed over his 50 years in the industry, what makes a character and story memorable and which books have helped shape his life and career. 


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing by Judy Blume

    The Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut

    Catch-22 by Joseph Heller

    A Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole


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    Who is the wimpy kid behind Jeff Kinney’s iconic series?

    Inside the Toronto Sceptres’ team book club


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  9. Why you should do good and expect nothing back

    28 minSeason 19 · Episode 5

    At the age of 27, Sam Demma just published his third book. His latest is called Return on Goodwill: Do good. Expect nothing. Watch life surprise you. He talks about how a trip to Value Village changed his …

    Show notes

    At the age of 27, Sam Demma just published his third book. His latest is called Return on Goodwill: Do good. Expect nothing. Watch life surprise you. He talks about how a trip to Value Village changed his perspective on everyday interactions, and shares the book that helped get him there. Sam is a bestselling author, an international speaker and someone who's been spreading his message of kindness and respect since he was a teenager. Plus, Talia Kliot joins the show after watching and reading Ali Hazelwood’s breakout rom-com The Love Hypothesis. She’ll share her thoughts and talk about the film's familiar backdrop. 


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Return on Goodwill by Sam Demma

    How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie

    The Love Hypothesis by Ali Hazelwood


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    Has hustle culture been lying to you?

    The hidden connection between basketball and book nerds


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  10. Can straight authors write books with gay protagonists?

    28 minSeason 19 · Episode 5

    When writer and creative Arizona O'Neill read the satirical novel Fruit Fly by Josh Silver, it got her thinking about the publishing industry and the popularity of gay romance written by women. It's about a …

    Show notes

    When writer and creative Arizona O'Neill read the satirical novel Fruit Fly by Josh Silver, it got her thinking about the publishing industry and the popularity of gay romance written by women. It's about a straight female author with a bad case of writer’s block who decides to write a novel about a young gay man battling addiction. Arizona makes her case for why it might be time to resume the conversation on who has the right to tell what stories. Plus, author Grant Ginder talks about his real-life heroes and his love for good produce while answering The Next Chapter’s version of The Proust Questionnaire. 


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Fruit Fly by Josh Silver

    So Old, So Young by Grant Ginder


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    Dealing with family drama? These novels prove it could always be worse

    How to avoid getting locked in an echo chamber


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  11. Comparison kills: why ranking books can get problematic

    28 minSeason 19 · Episode 4

    What are the best books published this month? Questions and titles like this led to writer and teacher Thea Lim’s article “Abolish the Top Ten List,” for the Walrus magazine. She noticed how rankings and lists …

    Show notes

    What are the best books published this month? Questions and titles like this led to writer and teacher Thea Lim’s article “Abolish the Top Ten List,” for the Walrus magazine. She noticed how rankings and lists dominate how we speak about books, narrowing the number of titles that reach the surface. Is this a healthy way to interact with art? She joins the show to talk about it. Plus, author Don Gillmor talks about his venture into crime thriller writing with Cherry Beach and recommends a read-alike. 


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Small Mercies by Dennis Lehane

    Cherry Beach by Don Gillmor


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    Are literary prizes a scam?

    Why Ann Patchett thinks the secret to success might be lowering people's expectations


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  12. How Junie B. Jones inspired Taylor Tomlinson’s comedy career

    27 minSeason 19 · Episode 4

    With four Netflix specials and a late-night show to her name, Taylor Tomlinson has comedy figured out. But something she had never done before, was write a book. The comedian just released an essay collection …

    Show notes

    With four Netflix specials and a late-night show to her name, Taylor Tomlinson has comedy figured out. But something she had never done before, was write a book. The comedian just released an essay collection called Actually, Nevermind, all about how people are allowed to change their minds. In the book, she lets us into her brain, discussing everything from love to religion, personal stories and mental health. She takes us back to a time when she thought she was destined to be a writer, and when Junie B. Jones taught her to be funny. A lifelong reader, she joins The Next Chapter to talk about her favourite books and what it meant to write her own.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    The Junie B. Jones series by Barbara Park

    Bird by Bird by Anne Lamott

    Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel

    Bossypants by Tina Fey


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    The books that made Andrew Phung fall in love with storytelling

    What books drew Brendan Fraser to storytelling?


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  13. 10 years since publishing Indigenous Writes, what’s changed?

    28 minSeason 19 · Episode 3

    Chelsea Vowel is a lawyer, teacher and writer. 10 years ago, she published her influential book Indigenous Writes: A Guide to First Nations, Metis and Inuit issues in Canada. Chelsea joins the show to talk …

    Show notes

    Chelsea Vowel is a lawyer, teacher and writer. 10 years ago, she published her influential book Indigenous Writes: A Guide to First Nations, Metis and Inuit issues in Canada. Chelsea joins the show to talk about the newly released 10th anniversary edition, which continues the groundbreaking conversation. Plus, novelist and playwright Anosh Irani talks about the process of adapting Rohinton Mistry’s novel A Fine Balance for the stage at Crow's Theatre in Toronto.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Indigenous Writes: A Guide to First Nations, Metis and Inuit issues in Canada by Chelsea Vowel

    A Fine Balance by Rohinton Mistry 


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    Why books serve a vital role in Truth and Reconciliation

    What does it mean to be a Bad Indian?


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  14. Here’s what’s on our fall TBR list

    26 minSeason 19 · Episode 3

    For our team of producers at CBC Books, fall reading starts in spring when publisher catalogues and look-aheads arrive at the office. Ailey Yamamoto, Ashly July and Lisa Mathews have been reading fall books for …

    Show notes

    For our team of producers at CBC Books, fall reading starts in spring when publisher catalogues and look-aheads arrive at the office. Ailey Yamamoto, Ashly July and Lisa Mathews have been reading fall books for months, and join the show to recommend the title they think should make the top of your reading list. Plus, Polaris Prize nominated musician Charlotte Cornfield talks about her musical journey and what she’s been reading. 


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    We Are Underlings by Doretta Lau

    Opioids and Organs by Arizona O'Neill

    The Wild Beneath by Kelly Anderson

    These Songs I Know by Heart by Erin Brubacher


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    Fall book recs? Take it from us

    What might surprise you about Margaret Atwood’s new memoir


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  15. What the stars of North of North are reading

    28 minSeason 19 · Episode 2

    After cleaning up at the Canadian Screen Awards in May, North of North returns for season two with nine awards under its belt including Best Comedy Series. In this episode, co-stars Anna Lambe and Maika Harper …

    Show notes

    After cleaning up at the Canadian Screen Awards in May, North of North returns for season two with nine awards under its belt including Best Comedy Series. In this episode, co-stars Anna Lambe and Maika Harper join the show to talk about the series, the stories it tells and the role books and reading play in their busy lives. Plus, author Ashley Audrain opens up about her novel The Push being named by the New York Times as one of the top 50 thriller novels of the 21st century. 


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    A Brief History of Seven Killings by Marlon James

    The First Peoples by Maika Harper

    Thou Shalt Do No Murder by Kenn Harper

    The Jakarta Method by Vincent Bevins

    A Brief History of Seven Killings by Marlon James

    Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn

    The Death of Us by Abigail Dean


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    How Amanda Brugel manifested her role in The Handmaid’s Tale

    The books that made Andrew Phung fall in love with storytelling


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  16. Why we keep coming back to The Odyssey, 3000 years later

    24 minSeason 19 · Episode 2

    The Odyssey, both the movie and Homer’s epic poem, was at the top of the pop culture zeitgeist this summer. The sudden resurgence leads to the question: What is it about the Greeks, their myths and their …

    Show notes

    The Odyssey, both the movie and Homer’s epic poem, was at the top of the pop culture zeitgeist this summer. The sudden resurgence leads to the question: What is it about the Greeks, their myths and their philosophies that sticks with us? To dive into this topic, we sit down with writer, actor and classic enthusiast Kudakwashe Rutendo to discuss the staying power of these stories, and share her less than warm review of The Odyssey. Plus, Montreal-based musician Edwin Raphael talks about his music and why he wants to read more this year.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    The Odyssey by Homer

    The Odyssey by Emily Wilson

    Son of Nobody by Yann Martel

    The Hungry Tide by Amitav Ghosh


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    Are book bans actually effective in a digital age?

    The youngest Canada Reads contestant is now a Disney star: Here’s what she’s reading now


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  17. Kia Nurse shares what the Toronto Tempo is reading

    28 minSeason 19 · Episode 1

    You may know Kia Nurse from the WNBA, Team Canada or her basketball coverage on TSN. She also scored the first points recorded in Toronto Tempo history. Today she joins the show to talk about the team’s book …

    Show notes

    You may know Kia Nurse from the WNBA, Team Canada or her basketball coverage on TSN. She also scored the first points recorded in Toronto Tempo history. Today she joins the show to talk about the team’s book club, and what they’ve been reading as of late. And later, CBC Books producer Bridget Raymundo talks about the hit graphic novel series Hearstopper, and why it holds such a special place in her heart. 


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    It Should Have Been You by Andrea Mara

    Yesteryear by Caro Claire Burke

    The Silent Patient by Alex Michaelides

    Heartstopper by Alice Oseman 


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    Inside the Toronto Sceptres’ team book club

    Get to know CBC’s Winter Olympics host


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  18. What happens when 6 Canadian actors start a book club

    28 minSeason 19 · Episode 1

    Celebrity book clubs have shown their staying power. From Reese Witherspoon to Dua Lipa, everyone’s curious about what actors and artists are reading. When Heated Rivalry’s Nadine Bhabha shared that she’s in a …

    Show notes

    Celebrity book clubs have shown their staying power. From Reese Witherspoon to Dua Lipa, everyone’s curious about what actors and artists are reading. When Heated Rivalry’s Nadine Bhabha shared that she’s in a book club with five of her actor friends the last time she was on the show, we knew we had to see what this club was all about. Nadine and her colleagues Clark Backo and Jess Salgueiro join the show to peel back the curtain on this star-studded book club, share what they’ve been reading and how their love of books brought them all together.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    I Who Have Never Known Men by Jacqueline Harpman

    The Witch by Marie Ndiaye

    Half His Age by Jeannette McCurdy 


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    Heated Rivalry’s Nadine Bhabha’s It Girl book club

    How Amanda Brugel manifested her role in The Handmaid’s Tale


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  19. These books introduced Will Ferguson to the world... and changed his life

    27 minSeason 18 · Episode 53

    Will Ferguson began his career as a travel writer. Since then he's written more than a dozen books and won some of the biggest literary prizes a Canadian writer can win. Along the way, he never gave up travel …

    Show notes

    Will Ferguson began his career as a travel writer. Since then he's written more than a dozen books and won some of the biggest literary prizes a Canadian writer can win. Along the way, he never gave up travel writing, and still uses it to inform his fiction. His books stretch across genres, allowing his work to follow wherever his interests take him, always with an underpinning thread of humour. Growing up in a small town in Northern Alberta, books were his first ticket to seeing the outside world. He'll break down which books have influenced his life and career the most in a segment of My Life in Books.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Meanwhile, Back in Nokomis by Will Ferguson

    Red Sky at Morning by Richard Bradford

    The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz by Mordecai Richler

    The Quiet American by Graham Greene

    Satellite Love by Genki Ferguson


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    Terry Fallis proves you have to live before you can write

    The books that made Andrew Phung fall in love with storytelling


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  20. What it’s like entering the spotlight after a career of ghostwriting

    28 minSeason 18 · Episode 52

    For most of her writing life Patricia Finn wrote and polished other people’s stories. But this spring she stepped out of the shadows with the publication of her debut novel. It’s called The Golden Boy and it …

    Show notes

    For most of her writing life Patricia Finn wrote and polished other people’s stories. But this spring she stepped out of the shadows with the publication of her debut novel. It’s called The Golden Boy and it follows a television executive who, after losing his job, inherits the grandchildren of his deceased friend. Patricia joins the show to tell us about The Golden Boy and recommend a companion read. Plus, author Uzma Jalaluddin shares what Gen Z slang she's picked up from her kids while answering The Next Chapter's version of the Proust Questionnaire.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    No Great Mischief by Alistair MacLeod

    The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny by Kiran Desai

    Moonlight Murder by Uzma Jalaluddin


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    The author behind Lucky reveals how she helped cast Anya Taylor-Joy

    The book that inspired Carley Fortune's writing career


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  21. How far must we go to find our way home?

    27 minSeason 18 · Episode 52

    In April, two Canada Reads nominated authors took the stage in Whitehorse to discuss their books in front of a packed live audience. The evening featured a conversation between Loghan Paylor, author of The Cure …

    Show notes

    In April, two Canada Reads nominated authors took the stage in Whitehorse to discuss their books in front of a packed live audience. The evening featured a conversation between Loghan Paylor, author of The Cure for Drowning, and Billy-Ray Belcourt, the author of A Minor Chorus. Both novels explore what it means to find a sense of home, and how that quest can impact who we become. The event was called Homecoming, and with the help of CBC host Leonard Linklater, the authors sat down to discuss the themes of home, identity and belonging in their characters' lives, and in their own.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    The Cure for Drowning by Loghan Paylor

    A Minor Chorus by Billy-Ray Belcourt


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    How iconic musician Tegan Quin plans to tackle Canada Reads

    Why Elle-Maija Tailfeathers says A Minor Chorus is the story Canada needs to hear right now


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  22. What made The Tragically Hip Canada’s band?

    22 minSeason 18 · Episode 51

    Ten years ago, more than 11 million Canadians tuned in to CBC for the live airing of The Tragically Hip’s final concert of their Man Machine Poem tour in Kingston, Ontario. Since then, this performance has held …

    Show notes

    Ten years ago, more than 11 million Canadians tuned in to CBC for the live airing of The Tragically Hip’s final concert of their Man Machine Poem tour in Kingston, Ontario. Since then, this performance has held a special place in the minds of many Canadians and more. Michael Barclay is a writer and long time fan of the band. He wanted to make sure that the iconic Canadian band’s history was being documented, so he wrote a book. It’s called The Never Ending Present: The Story of Gord Downie and the Tragically Hip. It guides readers through the history of the band, their music and offers a window into the music scene at that time. He talks about the band's legacy and what made the Hip Canada's band.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    The Never Ending Present: The Story of Gord Downie and the Tragically Hip by Michael Barclay

    Rough Description by Don Pyle


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    Canadian fiddle legend Natalie MacMaster shares her life in books

    What is the greatest Canadian novel of all time?


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  23. How to avoid getting locked in an echo chamber

    24 minSeason 18 · Episode 50

    Some books change your mind. Others simply reinforce what you already know. The Next Chapter's columnist Nathan Maharaj joins the show to talk about two books that challenged his assumptions and altered his …

    Show notes

    Some books change your mind. Others simply reinforce what you already know. The Next Chapter's columnist Nathan Maharaj joins the show to talk about two books that challenged his assumptions and altered his perspective. Nathan is a lifelong bookseller and the director of content marketing at Rakuten Kobo. He'll discuss why challenging your beliefs is important and how it can lead to a broader worldview. Plus, Toronto artist Mah Moud stops by to talk about a mysterious book from his parents bookshelf, and how the impact of a good novel can last for generations.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Invisible Women: Data Bias in a World Designed for Men by Caroline Criado Perez

    How Great Things Happen by George Newman


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    Can reading be the first step to making real change?

    What is the greatest Canadian novel of all time?


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  24. The author behind Lucky reveals how she helped cast Anya Taylor-Joy

    25 minSeason 18 · Episode 49

    A few years ago Marissa Stapley heard a radio story about an unclaimed winning lottery ticket, which planted the seed for her novel, Lucky. Since then, the book has become a Reese Witherspoon Book Club pick and …

    Show notes

    A few years ago Marissa Stapley heard a radio story about an unclaimed winning lottery ticket, which planted the seed for her novel, Lucky. Since then, the book has become a Reese Witherspoon Book Club pick and was recently adapted into a star-studded Apple TV series starring Anya Taylor-Joy and Drew Starkey. Lucky is the novel that changed Marissa Stapley’s life, and today she joins the show to talk about it, her time in Hollywood and where she plans to take her beloved character next. Marissa will also share a few titles she’s reading this Summer. Plus, Nick Frosst, lead singer from the Toronto band Good Kid stops by to recommend a book that has changed his perspective on human pre-history. 


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Lucky by Marissa Stapley

    Definitely Thriving by Kerry Clare

    Strangers in the Villa by Robyn Harding

    The Dawn of Everything by David Graeber and David Wengrow


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    The book that inspired Carley Fortune's writing career

    Why does Nita Prose call herself an accidental writer?


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  25. Why storytellers come alive when food is on the table

    53 minSeason 18 · Episode 48

    Is there one meal that reminds you of home? A dish that brings back childhood memories? For CBC Books producer Talia Kliot, it’s a shortbread, sour cream and walnut cake that makes an appearance at her family’s …

    Show notes

    Is there one meal that reminds you of home? A dish that brings back childhood memories? For CBC Books producer Talia Kliot, it’s a shortbread, sour cream and walnut cake that makes an appearance at her family’s special milestones. Talia is obsessed with the way that food helps us tell stories and even made a radio documentary about it, where she speaks to writers, an academic and a video game designer. She joined Antonio Michael Downing on The Next Chapter to share what made her hungry for these stories in the first place … and why food is the best way to connect.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Restaurant Kid by Rachel Phan

    How to Share an Egg by Bonny Reichert

    Poutine by Justin Giovannetti Lamothe


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    The books that fire up chef Michael Smith

    Is food the closest thing to teleportation?


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  26. What is the hardest part of translating a beloved novel?

    27 minSeason 18 · Episode 47

    Set in late-20th-century Cairo, Éric Chacour's novel What I know About You is a heartbreaking story of an impossible love and a family fractured by secrets and expectations. It was selected for One eRead …

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    Set in late-20th-century Cairo, Éric Chacour's novel What I know About You is a heartbreaking story of an impossible love and a family fractured by secrets and expectations. It was selected for One eRead Canada’s live digital book club, which brings libraries and readers together. Originally written in French, the book's translator, Pablo Strauss joins the discussion to share what it was like recreating the world in English for a conversation hosted by the Mississauga Library.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    What I Know About You by Éric Chacour


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  27. Why Ernest Hemingway had a problem with Toronto

    27 minSeason 18 · Episode 46

    Did you know that Ernest Hemingway wrote for the Toronto Star? The iconic cigar-smoking, bull-fighting American writer spent two separate stints living in Canada. It was partly while living and working in …

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    Did you know that Ernest Hemingway wrote for the Toronto Star? The iconic cigar-smoking, bull-fighting American writer spent two separate stints living in Canada. It was partly while living and working in Toronto that he developed his stripped-down, sparse writing style. Author and Hemingway expert Terry Fallis reflects on the writer's larger than life reputation and his time spent in Toronto ahead of the upcoming International Hemingway Society Conference. Plus, CBC producer Christine Pagulayan talks about the latest trend to hit the world of romance. 


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    A Moveable Feast by Ernest Hemingway

    The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway

    The Stand-In by Lily Chu

    The Marionette by Terry Fallis


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  28. How an accidental police officer stumbled into a career as a mystery author

    27 minSeason 18 · Episode 45

    Clare Mackintosh joined the police force by accident. But taking what she learned over a 12 year career and using it to become a bestselling mystery and crime writer, was no accident. Nine novels later, she's …

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    Clare Mackintosh joined the police force by accident. But taking what she learned over a 12 year career and using it to become a bestselling mystery and crime writer, was no accident. Nine novels later, she's sold millions of copies and has never looked back. Her latest is a genre-fusing novel titled, It’s Not What You Think. Clare was recently a guest speaker at the yearly MOTIVE crime and mystery festival in Toronto, and dropped by to talk about the books that have shaped her life and career.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    And Then There Were None by Agatha Christie

    Little Face by Sophie Hannah

    Before You Go to Sleep by S. J. Watson

    Life After Life by Kate Atkinson

    It’s Not What You Think by Clare Mackintosh


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  29. Spilling secrets and small-town adultery in The Shampoo Effect

    27 minSeason 18 · Episode 44

    For years Jenny Jackson worked as an editor for some of the biggest authors in the publishing game. Eventually, she took what she had learned as an editor and applied it to writing a book of her own.The result …

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    For years Jenny Jackson worked as an editor for some of the biggest authors in the publishing game. Eventually, she took what she had learned as an editor and applied it to writing a book of her own.

    The result was a bestselling novel, and a new career as an author. Her new novel, The Shampoo Effect, took inspiration from a sexy, sixties novel about small-town adultery. It’s the story of a young woman who finds her way deep into a close circle of friends, and then writes all about them in a revealing New Yorker story. Plus, we revisit the late writer Gail Bowen’s Proust Questionnaire from 2015.


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Couples by John Updike

    The Shampoo Method by Jenny Jackson


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  30. Kid approved books they will actually want to read this Summer

    28 minSeason 18 · Episode 43

    Wondering how you’re going to keep your kids reading now that school’s out? Our children’s book panel is here to help. We’ve asked writer, broadcaster and Mom, Bee Quammie, and CBC Books producer and mother of …

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    Wondering how you’re going to keep your kids reading now that school’s out? Our children’s book panel is here to help. We’ve asked writer, broadcaster and Mom, Bee Quammie, and CBC Books producer and mother of two, Lucy Mann to recommend their recent favourite all Canadian kids books. Plus, author of Life of Pi, Yann Martel shares what matters most to him while answering The Next Chapter’s version of the Proust Questionnaire. 


    Books discussed on this week's show include:

    Ruthie by Esmé Shapiro

    The Healer and the Phoenix by Linda Trinh, illustrated by Quynh Anh Nguyen

    Inbetweens by Faith Erin Hicks

    Ellis on Guard by Sal Sawler, Nandita Ratan (Illustrator)

    Shy Cat and the Stuff-the-Bus Challenge by Dian Day (Author), Amanda White (Illustrator)

    The Cursed Queen's Daughter by Elly Blake

    Son of Nobody by Yann Martel


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