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Why you should do good and expect nothing back

October 12, 2026 · 28 min

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At the age of 27, Sam Demma just published his third book. His latest is called Return on Goodwill: Do good. Expect nothing. Watch life surprise you. He talks about how a trip to Value Village changed his perspective on everyday interactions, and shares the book that helped get him there. Sam is a bestselling author, an international speaker and someone who's been spreading his message of kindness and respect since he was a teenager. Plus, Talia Kliot joins the show after watching and reading Ali Hazelwood’s breakout rom-com The Love Hypothesis. She’ll share her thoughts and talk about the film's familiar backdrop. 


Books discussed on this week's show include:

Return on Goodwill by Sam Demma

How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie

The Love Hypothesis by Ali Hazelwood


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